I've never played Hoard, but Heist, weak as it is, provided me with a long and very enjoyable campaign. One the players is about to run it for another group, so he obviosuly enjoyed it too...
Indeed.
I've run Heist twice and ... it's one of those modules that's more of a skeleton than a full adventure. Most of the book is setting material anyway. As a framework, it really hangs together well. I think people got way to bent out of shape over the whole "Heist" part of the name and then they got a module that was actually a setting guide and four different variations of the same module. There was a lot of mismatched expectations I think.
Yeah, same here, both provided fun and exterior my group. Both share the distinction of having weak structures, which means they're quite a lot of individual prep work to get up and going...bit both come with a variety of Dungeons and situations thar can be useful at the table.
Yeah, they seemed frustrated thst it was a non-event, commercially
The first hour is where they dig into the numbers, you can skip the intro bits pretty easily: they have chapters set for when they really get into it.
Yeah, some of that was just...odd?
