Ryujin
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It's insufficient protection, as the original artist has no say over the incorporation of their copyrighted work in the first place. The wrong has occurred prior to the product's release.
AI is stealing writers’ words and jobs…
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Ryujin
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So many people/companies plead poverty. I charged a relative pittance for my photos despite fronting the costs of driving to and from the site 200+ Kms away, spending 2-3 days there, and housing/feeding myself, working through 8+ hour days, then spending days editing and posting the results. I found a real estate guy using my shots in his newsletter. A "charity calendar" (in reality being sold to defray costs of attending events) being produced with shots from myself, and several other photographers. One commercial website had dozens of my pictures, used in their after event newsletter and advertising. None had so much as emailed me to ask for use. I had to find this stuff, myself, and that's just the ones I remember off the top of my head.
The worst was a family who had a young daughter competing in the events, who was an up-and-comer in the sport. I gave them access to the site so that they could download full sized images, instead of the downsized ones I provided under Creative Commons license, with the strict understanding that they were for personal use only. I found them used in a magazine that I frequently sold images to, for publication. I cut their access immediately. That they never bothered to ask why their access was gone, the next several times I saw them on-site, told me everything that I needed to know.
Sacrosanct
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I will never understand why the artist who put dozens of hours into the actual work can be exploited and not be compensated, but it’s totally cool for Bob to take that artists work, type in a few words, and profit off of that. That is so backwards to me.
Sacrosanct
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Because it appears not everyone is aware of how AI is used, let's look at their own words:
" it would be impossible to train today’s leading AI models without using copyrighted materials."---OpenAI in a submission to the House of Lords
David Holz (founder of MidJourney) interview:
When asked: “Did you seek consent from living artists or work still under copyright?”
Holz replies: “No. There isn’t really a way to get a hundred million images and know where they’re coming from. It would be cool if images had metadata embedded in them about the copyright owner or something. But that’s not a thing; there’s not a registry. There’s no way to find a picture on the internet, and then automatically trace it to an owner and then have any way of doing anything to authenticate it.”
MidJourney admitting behind the scenes they are stealing and laundering images from artists:
" it would be impossible to train today’s leading AI models without using copyrighted materials."---OpenAI in a submission to the House of Lords
David Holz (founder of MidJourney) interview:
When asked: “Did you seek consent from living artists or work still under copyright?”
Holz replies: “No. There isn’t really a way to get a hundred million images and know where they’re coming from. It would be cool if images had metadata embedded in them about the copyright owner or something. But that’s not a thing; there’s not a registry. There’s no way to find a picture on the internet, and then automatically trace it to an owner and then have any way of doing anything to authenticate it.”
MidJourney admitting behind the scenes they are stealing and laundering images from artists:
Scribe
Legend
Add in the openAI statement about how it would be 'impossible' to train without stealing from the world, and there you go.
Now, that wont change the level of entitlement some feel at getting to use a tool like this, and even potentially profit off the backs of others, nor will it change the minds of those who think that this 'progress' is going to somehow free us from the confines of our capitalist system, and somehow herald in a utopia while raising up the standard of living of billions...while...removing our need to work?
Ryujin
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I don't know how widespread this is but, for the record, all the images that I've commercially taken since roughly 2011 have my name and website name, as copyright, embedded in the EXIF. The feature is built into the camera's firmware.
Micah Sweet
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Of course, no one will be willing to pay for that.
Scribe
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Willing, or able? When we are all on UBI (funded by what taxes?) I'm sure it will be fine.
Micah Sweet
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One could argue it's good for the consumer, since they get good content.
lynnfredricks
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Ideally, there are proactive protections for this among violations of (a great many) rights, but I don't think there's an easy solution. What would such a solution look like?
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