D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

KYRON45 · May 14, 2024

Why Greyhawk? Why any setting? It's a game of imagination.
In my experience most players barely know what's on their character sheet let alone the 400 year history of that place/thing over there. The fact that there is no x in y setting is laughable. It's your setting do with it what you will.

DarkCrisis · May 14, 2024

"Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why."

Ain't nothin' but a Greyspace
Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a Flanaess
Tell me why
I never wanna hear you say
Castle Greyhawk, no way

lkj · May 14, 2024

I remember Mearls making the point that one of Greyhawk's best features was providing enough tantalizing lore to catch your attention but leaving the vast majority of details to the individual DM. I suspect they are using it in that light. A concrete way to give new DMs a taste of how to build a campaign world while also giving a nod to nostalgia as a bonus. Done properly, it can certainly serve a new generation, who will undoubtedly take it in directions different than was done in the '70s.

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Parmandur · May 14, 2024

Charlaquin said:
Fading because the author is hellbent on destroying the goodwill of the very audience her books appealed most to. We were too young to notice the blatant fat phobia, low-key antisemitism, and general milquetoast pro-establishment political stance when we first read them, and were so enthralled by the world and fond childhood memories to be too critical of them once we got older. But, once she took the mask off, the spell was broken and we all collectively realized they were never really as good as we had built them up to be in our own heads.

I'm a little bit of an oddball (on multiple levels, honestly), and I fell in a. Ery particular window with Harry Potter that I didn't read it as a kid, and when it came on my radar I was at the exact age that I was too cool to read a kid's book (before I reached the point of maturuof knowing a book is juat a book). So I have little to no nostalgia. Only read the first two, pretty mediocre IMO but by that time I was in college so it was competing with Paradise Lost and Chaucer in my brainspace.

Never thought they were that good, and that they were destined to fade as the warm feels faded. Didn't expect Rowling to actively attack the nostalgia, though.

Parmandur · May 14, 2024

lkj said:
I remember Mearls making the point that one of Greyhawk's best features was providing enough tantalizing lore to catch your attention but leaving the vast majority of details to the individual DM. I suspect they are using it in that light. A concrete way to give new DMs a taste of how to build a campaign world while also giving a nod to nostalgia as a bonus. Done properly, it can certainly serve a new generation, who will undoubtedly take it in directions different than was done in the '70s.

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That's how we did in Colllege wirh 3E Greyhawk.

Scribe · May 14, 2024

Reynard said:
Greyhawk is a world inspired by Gygax's love of sword and sorcery pulp fantasy and hard coded medievalism. I just don't understand how that is going to appeal to generations raised on Avatar, Harry Potter and Steven Universe.

I think for the majority of new players, it won't and doesn't matter. I think it's Wizards trying to maintain that nostalgic hook for the vocal online base and ride that fence a bit longer.

Parmandur · May 14, 2024

@Snarf Zagyg Any thoughts on this news?

Raiztt · May 14, 2024

Reynard said:
Greyhawk is a world inspired by Gygax's love of sword and sorcery pulp fantasy and hard coded medievalism.

based

Reynard said:
I just don't understand how that is going to appeal to generations raised on Avatar, Harry Potter and Steven Universe.

I see this as a total win

Charlaquin · May 14, 2024

Parmandur said:
I'm a little bit of an oddball (on multiple levels, honestly), and I fell in a. Ery particular window with Harry Potter that I didn't read it as a kid, and when it came on my radar I was at the exact age that I was too cool to read a kid's book (before I reached the point of maturuof knowing a book is juat a book). So I have little to no nostalgia. Only read the first two, pretty mediocre IMO but by that time I was in college so it was competing with Paradise Lost and Chaucer in my brainspace.

To be fair, the books were written to mature with the audience. The first two are very much just your average fantasy kids’ books, the third and fourth get a bit darker, and the fifth onward are young adult novels. I happened to be in the perfect age group to fall in exactly the right target age for each book as it came out. But, yeah, they’re really pretty mediocre in terms of both writing quality and themes. They were just marketed brilliantly.

Parmandur · May 14, 2024

Charlaquin said:
To be fair, the books were written to mature with the audience. The first two are very much just your average fantasy kids’ books, the third and fourth get a bit darker, and the fifth onward are young adult novels. I happened to be in the perfect age group to fall in exactly the right target age for each book as it came out. But, yeah, they’re really pretty mediocre in terms of both writing quality and themes. They were just marketed brilliantly.

Really an astonishing perfect pop culture storm: but the foundation was built on sand.

D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

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