The Gith Are Now Aberrations in Dungeons & Dragons

Shardstone said:

I guess you won't like that Halflings are Oozes now...

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Charlaquin said:

Obviously feel free to continue running gith as humanoids if that suits your games. But RE: the lore, I don’t see why gith being classified as aberrations would get in the way of the “gith hate aberrations” theme. They’re being classified that way because they were altered by aberrant influence, which if anything I would think gives them all the more reason to hate (other) aberrations.

I think it’s probably being done to justify creatures being considered monsters. The thinking is, if humanoids are going to be afforded moral agency and all the nuance that comes with it, any creatures represented by a monster stat block as opposed to an NPC stat block need a creature type other than humanoid. This is how they’re attempting to get around the question of “if orcs are people, are devils/illithid/whatever people too?”

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Worrgrendel said:

Wait, does that mean the Psionic Grey Ooze is now the pin ultimate evolution of Halflings?

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Belen said:

This is the exact reason but it will not fly with folks who make the argument that X are people too. The same moral issues will continue to apply to any sentient group as a whole.

It is a no win scenario.

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Shardstone said:

I guess you won't like that Halflings are Oozes now...

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Staffan said:

I'm not a fan, but mostly because I don't want everything with psionics to be Aberration-based. I mean, yes, weird crap from beyond reality can mess with people's heads and do telekinetics and see things far away and such.

You know who else can do those things? Jedi. And Jedi aren't aberration-based. The default for psionics should not be "slime and tentacles".

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Charlaquin said:

Well, it’ll hold humans, elves, dwarves, halflings, gnomes, orcs, tieflings, dragonborn, goliaths, and aasimar. But, yeah, won’t likely hold any creatures you’re likely to encounter in a dungeon.

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MerricB said:

Possibly. Next thing you know... halflings are aberrations as well!

(Gnomes already should be!)

One of the reasons I'm reacting so negatively to this change is that this isn't a new edition. If they'd say 2024 was 6E, I'd be fine with all these changes.

But there's stuff here that actually changes how the game plays in significant ways. You can find old adventures that assume the spells work one way and now that is illegal.

To say nothing of how the daylight spell now produces sunlight... and makes Curse of Strahd a lot easier. Just bring in a driftglobe!

(Do I think a spell called daylight should produce sunlight? Absolutely. At that level? No.)

Ultimately, I'll keep playing and enjoying D&D (2024 most likely), but wow it's giving me the strangest vibes.

Cheers!

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Bae'zel said:

So I'm assuming that "Hold Monster" covers all the rest?

That's a few levels higher. I'm kind of confused.

A "Hold Undead" or "Hold Fey" seems like a perfect spell for certain classes.

This may be my first "hack" of 2024 D&D.

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