D&D General Warlocks' patrons vs. Paladin Oaths and Cleric Deities

Remathilis · Wednesday at 3:34 PM

Crimson Longinus said:
They represent things that exist in the fiction. Why would we have rules for them otherwise?

Interesting. Can people tell you're a level 7 rogue (assassin) by looks or...

TwoSix · Wednesday at 3:37 PM

Crimson Longinus said:
They represent things that exist in the fiction. Why would we have rules for them otherwise?

So just to be clear, in your games, the presence or absence of class and levels is something that can be determined by PCs and NPCs in the fiction, and can be discussed in-character without opening a metagame channel?

Neonchameleon · Wednesday at 3:39 PM

Crimson Longinus said:
They represent things that exist in the fiction. Why would we have rules for them otherwise?

But do they represent exact things or do they represent approximate things and roundings?

Do people actually "level up" at once or is it a more gradual process that's just rounded to the nearest level?

Crimson Longinus · Wednesday at 3:40 PM

Remathilis said:
Interesting. Can people tell you're a level 7 rogue (assassin) by looks or...

No, but once they fight you they can tell that you’re more competent than your ally, the 4th level battle master fighter and trained in completely different martial techniques.

Scribe · Wednesday at 3:44 PM

As a player, if I was playing a Paladin (often enough) Cleric (rare) Warlock (very little because of this threads exact issue) and I acted against my oath/god/patron and there was no actual consequence? The game is less for it in my view.

But, I'm old and apparently out of touch with what good gaming looks like.

TwoSix · Wednesday at 3:48 PM

Scribe said:
As a player, if I was playing a Paladin (often enough) Cleric (rare) Warlock (very little because of this threads exact issue) and I acted against my oath/god/patron and there was no actual consequence? The game is less for it in my view.

But, I'm old and apparently out of touch with what good gaming looks like.

And to clarify, when you say consequence, you mean that you expect the GM to measure your actions and enforce a consequence on your character?

Crimson Longinus · Wednesday at 3:57 PM

TwoSix said:
And to clarify, when you say consequence, you mean that you expect the GM to measure your actions and enforce a consequence on your character?

Isn’t that how most of the game works?

Scribe · Wednesday at 3:57 PM

TwoSix said:
And to clarify, when you say consequence, you mean that you expect the GM to measure your actions and enforce a consequence on your character?

Yeah.

TwoSix · Wednesday at 3:59 PM

Crimson Longinus said:
Isn’t that how most of the game works?

Yours, maybe.

Crimson Longinus · Wednesday at 4:02 PM

TwoSix said:
Yours, maybe.

So in your game the players decide the consequences of their actions?

D&D General Warlocks' patrons vs. Paladin Oaths and Cleric Deities

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