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I was also pretty much out of gaming during 2e. That was mostly a result of my lifestyle, where I was more focused on working and going out. Things started to change for me though once I became engaged and started to settle down. Then Icewind Dale and Baulder's Gate II came out and pulled me...

I don't know, that shift to 3e seemed pretty radical to me.

I will be switching over, but I am still finishing up 3.5 games. As such I did not vote.

Not really. You can have one product line of new stuff be GSL and your old signature stuff can remain OGL. Why move from 1e to 2e, 2e to 3e, 3e to 3.5? Because its bigger, stronger, faster, new and fun. Basically because its different. I know for me the bloom is off the rose regarding 3e...

Magical diseases which the party needs to adventure for in order to find a cure.

The problem with tried and true player playing the tried and true game, from the publishers view, is that they have already invested alot of money in it. I have hundreds of dollars worth of 3.x material on my shelves. More then I ever need. I haven't bought anything for it in probably a year...

I think what you are trying to say is that the GSL is preventing 3pp from moving to 4e DESPITE the larger market size. Because it would be crazy to think that they don't want to try and tap that larger market. Heck, try to tap both if you can. As for not wanting to convert Tomb of Horrors...

From what Erik said Paizo is doing great. That has nothing to do with my point abou overall market size. The question is what system is more appealing to a third party publisher. The system that holds 80% of the RPG market (which people think won't have much 3pp competition) or the system...

Nor do I say that they have to.

How is it moot? It actually is a prime example against the point that there is the GSL and nothing else. There could be any number of already existing deals with WOTC or other deals being negotiated outside the GSL.

If I remember correctly, I believe Erik also said that they wouldn't come close to approaching WOTC sales figures. I could be wrong and maybe someone with access to the search function could look that up. However, if Pathfinder does ever reach such heights I would certainly change my tune...

You contridict this statement below. There are other ways for publishers to produce 4e compatible products without signing the GSL. Also, I am not sure that Wotc has as much direct oversight as you claim it does. From my limited understanding, you sign up and then you have to adhere to some...

I am totally lost. I have no idea what point you are trying to make here. How is a user married to the GSL, if you are free to use GSL products, use OGL products, use 4e products that don't use the GSL, or convert OGL products to 4e? Except where it violates copyright law. But you can...

I did not say a "much larger than expected 4E market" as you quoted above. I said a "much larger expected 4E market". In other words, the market for 4e product is going to be much larger then the product for OGL. And when I say market, I don't mean the supply side, I mean the demand. The...

Huh? I didn't say anything about 0gones product being bad or anything of the sort. I was attacking the notion that one should feel sorry for companies going with the GSL because they will someday, many years from now, have their liscense ,and thereby their prodcut, terminated when that really...

In what sense did you use the word "married" if not to imply exclusivity? So exclusive OGL users are not limited from 4e products because they can simply copy and covert products to an OGL version, but for some reason exclusive 4e users can't do the same to OGL products?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iT8TD8VdKcb_JE6ewOa6XKQyYQ1wD918KTVG0 I would imagine that most of the people that bought that PH are planning to play it.

And there are a whole host of other settings like Planescape, Darksun, Ravenloft and others that are dead. I don't think that becoming the next Forgotten Realms is a reasonable expectation.

You said that you became married to the GSL "in a sense", implying that playing 4e excluded you from using OGL stuff. That is not the case. I also, from my limited understanding, a publisher doesn't have convert all of their product lines over to GSL. They can keep some stuff OGL and some...

I doubt that third party publishers are deciding to forego the much larger expected 4e market just so they can ensure to keep the pdf sales on old product for an expected much smaller market eight years from now.