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As a GM I would say the whole enemy party surrenders at that point. There's a reason leaders are leaders, without them the enemy party dissolves.

I agree with you Palladion, very shoddy play.

The only problem with you build is that Joan never killed a single person and only carried her standard into battle. But for alternate history mass wartime killer Joan, this rocks.

Punish them for taking too much time, or throw more encounters at them or tougher monsters to balance their resource maximization/conservation.

Doing double time on these boards and wotc, huh Lucas?

Ok, so we need some errata. Can this topic be closed now?

I don't have this problem with my 4e books and haven't had it with any prior editions either. I also live in a desert too, so it's extremely dry here and that may have something to do with it. Same goes for the page wrinkling.

Zurai, please don't be tedious. We see your point, but it's clearly not supposed to function that way, making further discussion unnecessary.

This doesn't need to be clarified or errata'd though, the intent is clear and any alternative reading is broken if it allows the fighter unlimited use of a burst power. That would encourage the fighter to miss.

Here's my solution. Be a ranger, take two weapon fighting, and two weapon defense. Now, wield a spiked light shield in one hand, consider it a buckler, it does d6 damage. So now, effectively you're simulating a shield with two weapon defense even though it's still a weapon. This may not be...

That's the way we've been playing it Surgoshan. The way I flavor it is, (usually from a flanking position) I (the warlord) give the enemy a head butt, a punch, or a shield bash and it opens up the foe for a real damaging strike from my ally. Lot's of fun, particularly when combined with Wolf...

A fighter can still do this.

Bloody goddamn hell people, just play the power the way you interpret it. It needs errata.

Even if PCs blow your solo away, there's no reason for there not to be a follow up fight. The solo could be a pet for another group of monsters, and then you've a got a group who likely just spent all their dailies and now they have to get by on encounter powers and wits.

Hell, that does seem problematic. It's daily though, right?

Oh ok, didn't see the item's details in the thread. What are the specifics of a targeted attack? For instance, if the invisible person is caught in an area attack, are they made visible?

Why does this conversation even need to take place? Any DM worth his or her salt isn't going to allow a PC to be permanently invisible with no repercussion.

I would definitely rule no, and I'm pretty sure that it doesn't work with the RAW. If you could, you could flank with a mage hand too, and I think you'll agree, that's pretty silly.

Like i said though, the battle isn't trivial. Solo's are still extremely dangerous. Being able to hit more frequently does not diminish the mob's lethality. The party can still lose. Edit: If a DM does think this power is too much, try luring the player into popping it early. Throw a...

I think this is a balanced power certainly it can turn the tide in favor of the PCs but is that a bad thing? The DM should not be out to kill the players, and solo monsters are still a huge handful while they are alive. Also, as Yaekazura mentioned, if you blow the attack, that's it.