1 year of 3.5e...How has the conversion gone?

After one year of 3.5, what do you think of the new rules?

  • Vastly Superior to 3.0! I can't believe how horrible and broken 3.0 was!

    Votes: 16 4.0%
  • Better than 3.0! Things are better balanced and generally more playable.

    Votes: 234 58.2%
  • Neutral. Some rules are an improvement, others are detrimental.

    Votes: 105 26.1%
  • Worse than 3.0. Most rule changes were unnecessary and poorly thought out.

    Votes: 22 5.5%
  • Terrible! 3.$ has really screwed up D&D!

    Votes: 9 2.2%
  • Other, please explain.

    Votes: 16 4.0%

Sir Elton, have you ever read the original D&D books?

If you haven't, then you're in for a shock when you actually see them.

Cheers!
 

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GlassJaw said:
How "official" is this ruling? If it is, it would make the new trip stuff a little more under control.

The 3.5 SRD is a little unclear, but this clarifies it:

D&D FAQ v.3.5 pages 17-18 Update Version: 07/02/04
"...attacks of opportunity are resolved before the action that triggers them..."

(the specific question is talking about somthing else, coup de grace, but the above quote isn't negated by removing the specific contex)
 


MerricB said:
Sir Elton, have you ever read the original D&D books?

If you haven't, then you're in for a shock when you actually see them.

Cheers!
I couldn't. I was a little 1 month old when D&D(1974) was out for 11 months. :D
 

IMHO 3.5 is a collection of poorly tested "House Rules" thrown together with a couple of good rule changes, and sprinkled for taste with some really stupid idea's.

Out of the 20+ players in my area, not a single 1 is playing 3.5 as their core or base systenm. The majority play 3E with only a smidgen of 3.5 and add-ons from other publishers.

The only good part about 3.5 was the Monster Manual which was really well done.

The majority of 3.5 was high priced crap.
 

While I was very happy with 3.0 and wasn't overly happy with the announcement of 3.5, I have to say that I like 3.5 a lot better. It cleared up muddy rules and overpowered spells. I like the 3.5 ranger better than the 3.0 version, but I still think there can be more done with the class. As far as using 3.0 supplements with 3.5, I haven't ran into many problems. Simply minor re-writes to non-converted class powers and skill lists and the occasional DR adjustment on a few monsters. Overall, I think the conversion was a good thing, and for the life of me I can't understand the arguement about not being able to use 3.0 material in 3.5. It seems that WotC did a decent job in making the two verisons very compatible.

Kane
 

Out of the 20+ players in my area, not a single 1 is playing 3.5 as their core or base systenm. The majority play 3E with only a smidgen of 3.5 and add-ons from other publishers

I don't know anyone playing 3.0 anymore, and that includes at least 3 completely seperate gaming groups.

IMHO 3.5 is a collection of poorly tested "House Rules"

Interesting considering the changes were based on 3+ years of 3.0 play-testing.

The majority of 3.5 was high priced crap.

So does that mean those that play 3.5 are rich morons? Ugh, I can't stand comments like this. Back it up with something concrete.
 

Most of the people I know in real life are still playing 3.0, with a few bits from 3.5 thrown in, such as the "add +2 to two skills" feats. This would include me. I bought the books, but IMO most of the changes were not necessary. The feats are spiffy and the fact that they fixed Harm is good, but those things hardly justify 3.5. I think all of those changes could have been added to UA.
 

GlassJaw said:
IMHO 3.5 is a collection of poorly tested "House Rules"

Interesting considering the changes were based on 3+ years of 3.0 play-testing.

The changes?

I think its fair to say that SOME changes were based on commentary about 3.0. For example, the ranger, cleaner descriptions for AoO's, cleaned up monk abilities, etc.

A good deal of it, however, was not. For example, there was no massive clamor to remove a very useful thumbrule for cover and concealment and replace it with one that largely discounted the DMs role in defining the situation.
 

I moved both my campaigns over to 3.5 shortly after it came out, and my only regret is that I didn't do it sooner. 3.5 fixed nearly everything that I disliked about 3e, and even most of the "what were they thinking" kinds of changes I first saw (square sizing, weapon sizes) have turned out to be changes for the better.

There is only 1 thing I dislike about 3.5, and that is the Gnome favored class = bard. Otherwise, every other change has been for the better, IMHO. I also wish they'd give us web updates for some of the remaining 3e-era books such as Monsters of Faerun.
 

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