3.5 makes Savage Species useless!!!

[CyberSpyder]

I never thought the LAs were at all a core part of SavS; my assumption was that the monster classes, design-your-own-class, estimate-your-own-LA, and templates, feats, and spells were the main sell(s). The prefab LAs seem almost an afterthought, IMHO.

BTW: Half-fiend most certainly is worth ECL +4... once you hit ECL 8 or thereabouts. IMHO, no one should play a 0-HD creature with a level adjustment until one's class levels equal one's LA. At that level, half-fiend is worth it. Wings, resistances, SLAs, ability boosts, smite good... I'd say so. If you'd like a lower ECL, trim the wings and use it at +3.

Quite so. I wasn't saying that the ECL is unjustified - with all the abilities tacked on, it seems appropriate to me. It just seems to me that putting on that much, so that you have to ramp up the ECL for it to be balanced, simply makes it more difficult for characters to take. I'd be happier with the old +3 level with less going for them...or even reducing that a bit for a +2. It's primarily for flavor, at least in my mind...

Ironic that you should mention the wing-trimming, though - I was planning for the cohort to have had her wings sawed off at a young age by an overzealous village priest. Probably not worth an ECL, though, because it would just take a single regeneration spell to put them right again.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

I didn't check the templates out too much, but the monsters seemed way overpriced. The LA+HD almost always = a way too high of a number. Heck the LA in itself sometimes would be enough of a ECL IMO. Problem is monster levels are frequently mor eon par wih NPC class levels, and the LA is usually overpriced a bit.

 

[TechnoLurker]

If you feel that any or all of your 3.0 books are now useless, you may send them to me. Although I already have them, I have several friends who do not own the books, and would provide the newly orphaned books with a good home.


TechnoLurker

Executive Director for the Home for Wayward RPGs

 

[Planesdragon]

Re: Re: Re: 3.5 makes Savage Species useless!!!

because it makes a 30 buck book one bought back a few months ago useless and all the rules that go into it go out the window!!! I don't mind a revamp but they just made this book not worth the paper it's printed on...

An argument could be made that the book wasn't worth its cover price when you bought it. (I didn't pick it up for exactly this reason.)

Aren't there equipment lists, new feats, RP backing--and a rule for starting moster characters at a level below their standard ECL?