(3.5E) Aw, crap...

[Mouseferatu]

From the main page:

The game now assumes that you use a battlemat (or something of the sort) and minis, and the rules are written to reflect this aspect of the game.

Dammit, I knew there was going to be something I hated. Everything I'd heard so far I'd liked, but I just knew the other shoe had to drop.

I don't use miniatures, except for truly massive, complex battles. I don't want to use miniatures. I don't like using miniatures.

And yes, I know they're not going to come and force me, but by rewriting the books so that the game assumes miniatures are in play, they just about guarantee that all new players from this point on will use miniatures, and the game will continue to evolve further in that direction.

Don't get me wrong. I've no objections to them including rules for minis, as they did in 3E original. But don't require them! Don't assume them!

What happened to options, not restrictions?

 

[Darkness]

What happened to options, not restrictions?

Sacrificed on the altar of pimping the new and improved miniatures game, most likely.

 

[Femerus the Gnecro]

What I want to know is exactly how the rules will be changed to reflect the miniature aspect.

I mean... they're already pretty grid-based anyways, what with threatened areas, AoOs, regimented movement rate, etc.

What could they change to make it more miniature based, and how could it negatively effect those people who don't use a battlegrid?

-F

 

[ColonelHardisson]

I thought they already made such an assumption in 3e? It always seemed that way to me. I wonder what this entails rules-wise?

 

[Henry]

For me personally, it makes not one microgram of difference, since our groups have used mini's with D&D since the late 1980's.

However, it is a bummer if they decide to more aggressively incorporate mini's rules. And if they change the rule about no facing, that's one I'm going to HAVE to ignore.

 

[Xarlen]

This seriously bites.

I game online; there's no way I *can* use Minis.

 

[Dragongirl]

Depends how much the rules are changed to assume mini usage. If it is too much, I will just pass on the books. I thought the 3.0 version had enough rules for minis, I don't see any need for it heavier than that.

 

[Moe Ronalds]

my group doesn't even *own* a battlemat.

 

[Oni]

I figured as much when I saw this:

" In addition, the new and revised content instructs players on how to take full advantage on the tie-in D&D miniatures line planned to release in Fall 2003 from WotC."

in the press release.


didn't make me very happy, I was personally hoping that they would go in exactly the opposite direction, but they're in the business of making money, so I guess I can't fault them for it, but if I get the revision I can guess what part of the additions I'll most likely be ignoring.

From my personal standpoint, I give this revision a big thumbs down.

 

[Fenes 2]

Bah. I doubt I will have to use minis for my battles. I am more concerned with making battles exciting than counting grids for movement.