360 or PS3?

[ethandrew]

For the most part the games I play are sports and RPGs. On my ps2 (I never got around to getting the xbox) I have pretty much the entire EA sports line. One game on my "must have" list is Oblivion, but I could always get that for my pc. After that, I don't really have any queued up.

Which console runs smoother? I know the 360 was having a lot of glitches and the RRoD, but they've got that full warranteed now, so I'm not too concerned. I haven't heard much about the ps3's performance really.

 

[jonathan swift]

For the most part the games I play are sports and RPGs. On my ps2 (I never got around to getting the xbox) I have pretty much the entire EA sports line. One game on my "must have" list is Oblivion, but I could always get that for my pc. After that, I don't really have any queued up.

Well, Oblivion is out on both the 360 and the PS3 as well.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Which console runs smoother? I know the 360 was having a lot of glitches and the RRoD, but they've got that full warranteed now, so I'm not too concerned. I haven't heard much about the ps3's performance really.

I'm not sure of the glitchs you mention, the RRoD is an odd one, since failure rates are never really listed.

That said, like I mentioned, there are plenty of games that run better on the 360 than the PS3, just because of familiarity and ease of programming. I think oblivion ran better on the PC then the 360 and better on the 360 than the PS3, and FEAR is the same way.

 

[ethandrew]

We'll assume that for now I'm only going to get Oblivion (which I probably would want to get for the console) and some sport games. I probably won't do too much Bluray, if any at all, so I'm better off with a 360 Elite with HDMI port and 65nm?

 

[Keldryn]

Go with the Xbox 360, hands-down.

There are a greater percentage of cross-platform titles this time around than in the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation, but the overwhelming majority of those cross-platform titles are being developed primarily on Xbox 360. The PS3 and 360 are probably pretty comparable in terms of technological performance, each having some benefits and limitations, but the 360 has a much more robust set of development tools and requires far less effort to get games up and running at an acceptable level of performance.

All of EA's "next-gen" games, for example, are developed primarily on the 360, even though the PS3 version is being developed concurrently. The PS3 versions are almost always lagging behind in performance -- and often significantly so. The Xbox 360 is less expensive to buy too.

Game developers go where the market share is, and with 10 million 360s (and Wii sales rapidly closing in on that figure) and 4 million PS3s, the 360 is more likely to pick up the killer exclusives. Even your stalwart Sony franchises like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII have been rumoured to eventually come to the 360 if the PS3 doesn't start selling a lot better in short order.

In the end it comes down to the exclusives, and I certainly think the 360 has the best exclusives. Mass Effect is enough to seal the deal for me.

 

[stevelabny]

thanks for the links...

so I take that i'm looking for a box that says Falcon on it?

and are the Falcons only going to be Elite at first? Now that they both have HDMI, the only difference seems to be the 100 GBs of space right? Is it still worth getting the elite?

Im finally playing all the PS2 games i missed (all 5 of them) for not having a PS2 all generation... and MP3, Mario Galaxy are coming out, I'm trying to hold off on the 360 as long as i can. but mass effect looks so ooo pretty

 

[drothgery]

thanks for the links...

so I take that i'm looking for a box that says Falcon on it?

Nope. Just a box with an HDMI out listed on the specs.

and are the Falcons only going to be Elite at first? Now that they both have HDMI, the only difference seems to be the 100 GBs of space right? Is it still worth getting the elite?

Well, the only other pack-in beyond a premium is an HDMI cable. Which can be had for $5-$10 online, but Sony sells theirs for $30, and your friendly local video game store will probably try to sell you Monster cables that cost twice that.

The extra hard drive space may be worth it; if you think you'll download a lot of demos, Xbox Live Arcade games, and movies from Xbox Live Video Marketplace, and/or uploading a lot of content and using your 360 as a Media Center extender, then the 120gb HD is probably worth it. If you're just using the HD as an oversized memory card, then it's not.

 

[Vocenoctum]

thanks for the links...

so I take that i'm looking for a box that says Falcon on it?

Yes, despite the followup post here, the HDMI one's don't all have 65nm. The do have the HDMI and a new heatsink, so not a horrible buy, but the 65nm chipset will theoretically be cooler.

and are the Falcons only going to be Elite at first?

actually, if I had to hazard a guess, I'd say Elites sell slower than Premiums, so the Premiums will be rotated faster, resulting in them getting the new chipset faster...

It's just a guess though. It's an across the board change, so it's "whatevers next" not "lets do this model, then this"

Now that they both have HDMI, the only difference seems to be the 100 GBs of space right? Is it still worth getting the elite?

You do get the cable, which MS says will cost 30-50, but everyone buys elsewhere for cheaper by far.

For HD's, my 20 gig is fine, but I did just have to delete stuff for the new Bioshock demo, so not perfect. cutting edge demo's are 1ish gb, for example, and the system takes up space too.

If you want HD movie content, the 100gb is probably the way to go.

Im finally playing all the PS2 games i missed (all 5 of them) for not having a PS2 all generation... and MP3, Mario Galaxy are coming out, I'm trying to hold off on the 360 as long as i can. but mass effect looks so ooo pretty

New bioshock trailer:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/12/bioshock-demo-now-available-on-xbox-live/

 

[Arnwyn]

Just to jump into someone else's thread...

when are the new 65nm 360s hitting shelves?

Contrary to what the posts in this thread say (though the links in this thread have the correct information), they're not out yet.

Maybe later this year.

 

[Mallus]

I probably won't do too much Bluray, if any at all, so I'm better off with a 360 Elite with HDMI port and 65nm?

It's sound like the 360 is the choice for you, but are you sure you're not interested in hi-def DVD playback?

That was the kicker for me (just bought a PS3). Because of Blu-ray, the PS3 is something I can share w/my wife.