40 Dollar Cap?

[Thorin Stoutfoot]

Don't pay full price for product

If you're a frequent consumer of RPG products, then you shouldn't ever pay retail for product. (Professional and serious photographers, for instance, don't ever pay retail for equipment, film and processing, either --- we buy from New York mail order stores) Buy at Amazon.com or Buy.com, where discounts of 37% are common. Nobilis, for instance, is available at Amazon.com for $31, AND qualifies for free shipping. Spycraft is available at buy.com for $22, AND qualifies for free shipping.

Publishers/writers/artists/play-testers don't get paid any less because you bought it from Amazon.com. What you do by buying from them is cutting out the distributor and the retailer. By going to your local game store less frequently, you also protect yourself from making impulse buys.

What you do with the money you save is your business. If you really love your local retailer, write them a check for Christmas. Or give the money to charity. Or use it and buy more games!

 

[thundershot]

I feel that the "survival of the fittest" theory will come into play, and only the top quality d20 publishers will be thriving and start to create the $50+ books.

Also, what you physically PAY isn't really the issue. A lot of people say they'll never pay 40 for a book and get it at discount. Well, what happens when you have a 60 dollar book getting discounted at 42 dollars? (standard 30% off) Or the candian or austrailian prices? I meant compared to what you're paying now..

I vote with my own dollar. I know I can buy a hardcover from FFG and be satisfied. I can buy a Mongoose Quintessential book and at least 75% of the content is valid for my campaign. (except the Cleric book, but none of my players are Clerics...) I expect top quality (if pricey) books from Bastion, and I'm giving them my vote by buying Oathbound. If this books is as good as people say, I'll be very satisfied. If it means that Bastion might put out a 60 dollar full color hardcover in the future, the products they produce now greatly reflect my buying decision, not necessarily the cost (no, I'm not rich, but it's a lot better than smoking or drinking, and my wife and I don't have children)



Chris

 

[Corinth]

That's a pretty irresponsible statement, and obviously an untrue statement. No one will ever FORCE people from making unnecessary and impulsive spending. DO NOT FOOL YOURSELF! And as for target market, Some of the products do have a more mature content but if it was marketed for over 18, there would be an adult content warning of a sort. (Try selling comics with nudity to a mass of kids under 18 and see how fast you get sued!) I'm sorry your statement is wrong!

Dancey said that the D&D target audience is college undergrads, which are 18-22 years of age. Check the EN World archives and the WOTC market survey.

 

[Storminator]

Dancey said that the D&D target audience is college undergrads, which are 18-22 years of age. Check the EN World archives and the WOTC market survey.

Yeah, but I game with eight 14 yr olds (pity me ). So to say you need to slant the game away from them is crazy.

All these kids have jobs or paper routes, and they have a pile of money to blow on games. 14 yrs old and making $75 a week? That's a lot of RPGs...

PS

 

[Corinth]

They're not the majority of gamers spending money on RPGs, and (as the survey shows) they never were. Most gamers, especially women, adopt the hobby in college.

 

[jmucchiello]

They're not the majority of gamers spending money on RPGs, and (as the survey shows) they never were. Most gamers, especially women, adopt the hobby in college.

Odd. Most of my gaming buddies all started playing in high school. Of course, we were all in high school in the early 80s during the first boom so perhaps that has something to do with it.

Joe Mucchiello
Throwing Dice Games
http://www.throwingdice.com

 

[BlueWing]

I'm just glad my local game store never raised the core rulebooks prices up from $19.95. It was a nice surprise when I went in expecting to pay $29.95.

 

[King_Stannis]

the ones that will be hurt most immediately by price increases like the ones ryan wants are the FLGS's. instead of infrequently going to buy.com and amazon, any book over $40 will be purchased from those clearinghouses.

in the long run we are all losers if prices rise. IMO, of course.

 

[JoeGKushner]

Problem with assuming Amazon and other online stories is that they'll have the books you want at a discount. Most of FFG books for example, aren't on sale. Nor Mongoose.

 

[Thorin Stoutfoot]

Problem with assuming Amazon and other online stories is that they'll have the books you want at a discount. Most of FFG books for example, aren't on sale. Nor Mongoose.

I believe that's a volume issue. When Amazon gets enough volume on a product, they lower the price. If the product's not selling in high enough volume, they don't lower the price. In that case, nothing stops you from going to the local game store, if the local game store provides better service. (A rare thing, in my experience)