40 Dollar Cap?

Thorin Stoutfoot said:

I believe that's a volume issue. When Amazon gets enough volume on a product, they lower the price. If the product's not selling in high enough volume, they don't lower the price. In that case, nothing stops you from going to the local game store, if the local game store provides better service. (A rare thing, in my experience)

My local gaming stores are actually pretty good. I go there to buy everything, I figure since most of the stuff I get is the small companies products that are never discounted (except in the used bin) that I might as well do it all at one place. Plus they have contests once a month and give away gift cirtificates (so far I've won 100$ that all went to more RPG books :D ).
 

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That's one thing I love about capitalism, is that you don't have to just go along with the masses. When I say, 'we have to do it together!' I'm urging everyone who's skittish about paying high prices for questionable content to resist the temptation to buy things on impulse or because of habit. : ] To each their own, and there's more choices of what to own than in the entire history of the world.

It's not a perfect system, but it sure has it's advantages.

Also, in response to the arguement that companies will go out of business if we don't buy from them, I say good. When people lose their jobs and companies go under, it's a simple correction of an inefficient situation, unless the companie dies in an unfair way or is somehow cheated out of its marketshare. I'm not saying it's a good thing that people see their companies die, and their jobs evaporate! Far from it! But it's better for everyone if the inefficient, lower-quality business fail while the good ones succeed. Remember, this isn't a living thing here, it's just a business, the employees of which can find other things to do.

Let's face it, game companies are feather merchants. The big secret is, gamers don't need game companies. All we need to play are some dice, some paper, and a few pencils. All the rules, all the technical aspects, even the game worlds and modules are just a convenience to let us play more easily.

Don't let the OGL fool you. Freely available roleplaying systems, hell, freely available games of all kinds, have been around for years. Like James F. Dunnigan wrote in a book about wargames a couple decades ago, I refuse to call them 'ameteur' because a lot of them are really good. I've played a few free systems, and I'm always impressed by what people will turn out 'just for fun'.

-S
 

Re: Re: 40 Dollar Cap?

JohnNephew said:


It appears that the Penumbra Fantasy Bestiary, in December, will be $45, though the details are not yet finalized.

Yep, it's a lot. But then, it also looks like it will be 352 pages (at least), hardcover, and will stuff in something on the order of 205,000 words. And we're paying all those writers 4 cents per word. (Some folks who publish less expensive monster books, and are much larger companies than we are, are also paying their "open call" writers 25% less. ;)

4 cents a word plus author copies!

Wow, even if it comes out to 2 pages per monster my 8 entries won't even be 5% of 352 pages. When I was submitting I thought it might break 200 at the most if it was on the big side. I'm really looking forward to seeing it in december.

Want your books cheap? Write for the companies. It's how I'm getting Penumbra Bestiary and Relics and Rituals II plus some others. The only thing better than getting a good book is getting paid for it as well. Plus you get that good feeling of having contributed something of worth.
 

The d20 version of Traveller (which has been "about to come out now" for about 6 months) is going to be about $45. But, it will also be GIGANTIC.

It's going to be 445 pages long, and includes complete vehicle and starship design mechanics, psionics and so forth. It's almost all crunchy, with little fluff. They had to cut out a lot of the setting material so all the crunchy bits would fit.

So if you are a Sci-Fi fan it should be worth the money.
 

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Voadam said:

I'm really looking forward to seeing it in december.

Me too!

I'm also looking forward to the Lance & Laser minis that are in the works already to accompany it. Imagine, a monster book, and figs of the new monsters that you'll be able to pick up as well!

"You're walking down the passageway, when suddenly out of the dark leaps... THIS!!"
 


Wicht said:


Here I thought most of us started playing in Elementary school.

I know my kids will :D

I started in the second grade. Took me three weeks of chores to save up that 8$ for the MM, my first RPG purchase.
 

Corinth said:
...Ditto for making the public aware that 18-22, not 12+, is the target audience for D&D (and most other RPGs); most gamers join the hobby as young adults, not children.

I don't know about the current average age, but when I started gaming in 1980, the average age was between 10 and 14 years of age. Our group is introducing one player's 10 year old son to the game right now, and it ain't the first time we've brought in someone below age 18.

As for $40 gaming products, keep in mind that the average cost of a magazine has gone up by about $2.00 in the past 6 years, the average cost of fast food has gone up by about 50 cents, and the average cost of a phone call in the U.S. has raised by about 25 cents! The cost of RPG products is due to rise any time now. Even many popular PDF products are now $7.00 as opposed to the "introductory" price of $5.00 just a year ago.

Prices are going to rise, and not just from "money-hunger" - but from natural inflation.
 

Crothian said:
I started in the second grade. Took me three weeks of chores to save up that 8$ for the MM, my first RPG purchase.

I bought the DnD basic set with my birthday money for my 10th birthday IIRC.

A freind had introduced me to it a few months previously.

I can still remember staring in awe at the pictures and reading the rules.
 

More Bang for Your Buck Theory

I live in New York City. Movies here are $10 for an adult ticket. If I see 4 movies, that's $40.00 for 8 hours of entertainment (I'm being generous here - Austin Powers Goldmember was only an hour and a half). If I spend $40 on a hardcover, however, I know I will get far more than 8 hours worth of entertainment from it.

But I never pay $40.00 (or $39.99 in retail-ese). I'm from New York, and only suckers pay retail! I highly recommend the En World online store for 10% off everyday!
 

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