4E Class Survivor - Round 15 (To determine the final 3)

[FireLance]

I can see this poll returning D&D to its roots of Fighting Man, Magic-User and Thief.

I think the actual roots were Fighting Man, Magic-User and Cleric. The Thief came later.

 

[Garthanos]

I think the actual roots were Fighting Man, Magic-User and Cleric. The Thief came later.

Yeah but the distinction between MU and Cleric was a false game dicotomy without actual reflection in myth and legend so when the thief entered the picture our brains automatically merged them again.... Gandalf the primordial Wizard had divine empowerment.

 

[FireLance]

Yeah but the distinction between MU and Cleric was a false game dicotomy without actual reflection in myth and legend so when the thief entered the picture our brains automatically merged them again.... Gandalf the primordial Wizard had divine empowerment.

I was under the impression that many of the cleric's spells had their roots in Biblical miracles (sticks to snakes, part water, cure blindness, raise dead, etc.) whereas magic-user spells were more "generically magical".

 

[Klaus]

I think the actual roots were Fighting Man, Magic-User and Cleric. The Thief came later.

You're right, but the Cleric began as a mix of Fighting Man and Magic-User (he can use weapons, armor and spells!). The Thief added something new to the mix.

 

[Garthanos]

I was under the impression that many of the cleric's spells had their roots in Biblical miracles (sticks to snakes, part water, cure blindness, raise dead, etc.) whereas magic-user spells were more "generically magical".

In myth and legend the most common spells attributed to "anyone" started with healing... sound familiar?... the idea that there was ever a generically magical is more than a bit under supported.

One mans evil warlock/witch was anothers holy or wiseman miracle worker depending on which religion you werea promoter of. I think you can go way back to early babylon finding that again and again.

Jewish faith with their very intellectual rabbi had a whole slew of techniques for detecting which you were dealing with ... they introduced the third category ... a fake ... an illusion maker who may be entertaining even... who's miracles just plain weren't.

 

[Garthanos]

Religions like to claim the other guys only had spiteful poisoning etc magics because "they" were evil... where as we only preyed for angels and plagues to strike down our enemies... ummm I mean we only preyed for our protection yeh yeh that is the ticket.