D&D 4E 4E: The day the game ate the roleplayer?

Lord Zardoz said:
It always vexes me when people use the word game as though it were some filthy word better used for describing parasite infested testicular cysts. The example comparing 4th edition to a first person shooter is one that implies that games are purely for the simple minded and easily amused while the Grand High Art of Roleplaying is reserved for those of refined sense and taste. What you forget is that games are meant to be fun, as is D&D. As a leisure activity, it competes for your time and money against going to the movies, playing video games, going out and getting drunk, snowboarding and going to the museum. If the gameplay is not fun, then no one will play it.

Those who would justify having the wizard as the most powerful character in the party by using the flawed logic of "the wizard is a wizard, and that's what wizards do" is failing to see the point at which D&D goes beyond being a fantasy fiction novel. If I happen to like playing as a savage and bloodthirsty half orc barbarian, I do not want to have my character start to suck when the Gandalf clone learns to cast Enhanced Deathspell 4. I probably also do not like it if we have to focus the game on the Gandalf wannabe and plan around the 15 minute adventuring day. Per encounter and Per day powers may break immersion for you, but the current system simply makes the game kind of suck.
I approve this sentiment.

Whence comes the notion that in order to "do it right" you have to either: A. fail to enjoy doing it, or B. ruin someone else's fun? It's balderdash, and it deserves to be outed as such.
 

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*Nods* I enjoy mindless action from video-games, amazing plotlines from adventure games, CRPGs and action/adventure but just because I enjoy those doesn't mean I can't also enjoy intricate well thought out RP sessions with my favourite PnP.

Hell, most of the time, with our sessions if it is a really long one. Usually around supper-time, we will bring out the video-games when people are eating and relaxing before getting back to play. Super Smash Brothers Brawl is going to be a VERY nice addition to our PnP nights.
 


Wisdom Penalty said:
I just spent 3-4 minutes reading the OP's post.

I'd give anything for those minutes back.
You've got them. See you in three days.

Here's a hint, folks: Read your post before you hit submit. If someone else is going to think, "wow, what a jerk," then just go back and erase it.

Darth Cyric, mhacdebhandia, and a handful of others - this particularly applies to your rude statements that started the thread. If you aren't interested in the subject, just go on to a different thread.
 

Wisdom Penalty said:
I just spent 3-4 minutes reading the OP's post.

I'd give anything for those minutes back.

I can't give you the 3-4 minutes back, but I can offer you this way to save maybe 20-30 seconds at a time, possibly applicable multiple times.

If you haven't got anything to add to a thread, don't threadcrap in it.

-Kid Charlemagne, EN World Mod and D&D Productivity Coach
 





Fifth Element said:
Wow. Double-modding. I wonder if that hurts more than a single?

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