The Little Raven
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I can vouch for that. Every time the words "turn-based" came up in any design meetings, we would all laugh. Turn-based multiplayer RPGs have gone the way of the point-and-click adventure game.
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I can vouch for that. Every time the words "turn-based" came up in any design meetings, we would all laugh. Turn-based multiplayer RPGs have gone the way of the point-and-click adventure game.
You can't say "turn based games don't sell" in the same post as "nobody makes turn based games."
What happens is that corporate gets backwash from the gibbering monkeys and decries "We can't make turn based games!" Because few come out, they're percieved as being dead.
Meanwhile, the few that DO come out sell FANTASTICALLY.
Turn based isn't dead at all. Nowhere near it. The problem is that people have false expectations, and those have lead to false assumptions on how the market works.
What happens is that corporate gets backwash from the gibbering monkeys and decries "We can't make turn based games!" Because few come out, they're percieved as being dead.
Meanwhile, the few that DO come out sell FANTASTICALLY.
Turn based isn't dead at all. Nowhere near it. The problem is that people have false expectations, and those have lead to false assumptions on how the market works.
The Little Raven
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Can you point me to the last multiplayer turn-based RPG that sold fantastically?
garyh
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Why must everything be multi-player?
The Little Raven
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Because that's where the biggest part of the current game market is. I don't agree with Raph Koster's "the single player game is an aberration" mentality, but working in the game industry, I see the waxing and waning between single and multiplayer, and right now, multiplayer is definitely waxing. As one of D&D's key strengths is being a multiplayer game, and the success of NWN and NWN2's multiplayer components, assuming that a 4e game would be multiplayer is realistic.
garyh
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I played the NES Dragon Warrior games long before being introduced to D&D, so maybe I'm just nostalgic for single-player party-controlling turn-based games. But one would think D&D could do that well AND produce NWN style games.
Also, I burnt out on WoW, and don't think anyone is going to out-WoW WoW, so I think it'd behoove developers to just aim at a different target.
The Little Raven
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I agree, there. Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy were staples for me while growing up.
Remember, multiplayer doesn't necessary mean MMO. WoW may dominate the MMO market, but games like Counter-Strike and Team Fortress 2 are still strong multiplayer games.
Right after you point me to all the different multiplayer RPGs. Remember, you just finished saying "multiplayer doesn't mean MMORPG."
Yes and no. Multiplayer games sell well, but most game developers will tell you that the vast majority of players who purchase games like NWN never even venture online. This holds true even for multiplayer RTS games like Dawn of War. Unless the game requires multiplayer, like MMORPGS, only a small fraction of players actually take advantage of being able to play online.
D.Shaffer
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...You'll note I'm still more or less talking about handhelds, right? You'll note there's no LACK of turn based games on handhelds, especially RPGs?
And even though turn based games do well on portables, and we've had many prime example of turn based RPGs, you dont think it's a suitable platform for DnD? Why not, aside from personal preforance?
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