D&D 4E 4e What?

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wolfcannon said:
from what ive seen of what WOTC is doing to 4E, im not impressed, nor will i buy this product. Killing of a major deity in FR, Removing a Core Race to replace it with the Orc Race, Adding Bane to the Core Gods, i personally refuse to accept or use any 4E product at this time.

First, this won't be the first time a major deity's been killed in the FR. I suspect it won't be the last. in fact, didn't they kill the goddess of magic to make way for the transition from 1e to 2e?

Second, they've announced the mystery race? Great! Where can I find the announcement? Besides, I still maintain that it's going to be goblins, not orcs. We have no idea what the monster entry for gnomes will look like. What if it's identical to the write ups of races in the PHB, with a bonus statblock for a generic gnome illusionist? They have indicated that some monsters in the MM will be playable straight from that book. Why get yourself all riled up before we know anything?

Third, it's been over 15 years since I played a Greyhawk game. I'm tired of them getting Pelor in my Dark Sun, Ravenloft, Forgotten Realms, Planescape, and Eberron. The pantheon presented in the PHB is for people who haven't built their own or selected a formal setting with its own pantheon. I'm not in that audience. Given your concerns about Forgotten Realms Gods and their health, I suspect you're not either. This is the easiest thing in the world to remedy too. In my homebrew, which I just devised, there's no god named Bane. He's Enab. Pretty nasty rotter too.

Finally, we're in total agreement about one thing. I refuse to use any 4e product at this time as well.

Okay, maybe refuse is too strong a word. I don't have access to any 4e products yet, so I can't really use them. I'll take a look at them when they start coming out. Hell, I may even* use them. But I'll wait to make a decision until I can look at what's there.

--G

* Okay, full disclosure. I'm afflicted with chronic ADD. I will probably pick them up because they're new and shiny. If I have time to play, then great! If not, c'est la vie.
 

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DandD said:
Quite contrarily, his very first posting is about that he dislikes the coming 4th edition and has no desire to purchase it, clearly proving that he has nothing to contribute at all. Which for me simply means that his postings are not going to be of any value at all, so that I should simply use the ignore-function that this message board provides.
To be frank, he smells like a troll to me.
 

wolfcannon said:
from what ive seen of what WOTC is doing to 4E, im not impressed, nor will i buy this product. Killing of a major deity in FR, Removing a Core Race to replace it with the Orc Race, Adding Bane to the Core Gods, i personally refuse to accept or use any 4E product at this time.
It's everyone's right to feel this way and to post it, but does it always need to be in a brand new thread?
 
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Whizbang Dustyboots said:
It's everyone's right to feel this way and to post it, but does it always need to be in a brand new thread?
Its no fun to be angry in a room full of angry people.

Its more fun to be angry when it can cause a commotion.
 


You do realize that one of the great things about dnd is that even if its in a book dosent mean you have to abide by it. If you dont like Bane then just say, "bane is out in my campaign" if you like that god, bring them back. If you dont like orcs, ban them.

Not really a difficult concept.
 


wolfcannon said:
from what ive seen of what WOTC is doing to 4E, im not impressed, nor will i buy this product. Killing of a major deity in FR, Removing a Core Race to replace it with the Orc Race, Adding Bane to the Core Gods, i personally refuse to accept or use any 4E product at this time.

You have convinced me to refuse to use any 4e products at this time too.

I am waiting till June.

1/10
 

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