Thezdemeus said:
Aren't rhetorical questions with obvious answers fun and educational?
with that being said, then why allow a neutral zone at all for any monstrous, angelic or demonic creatures.
Welcome, sir, to Sigil. Where you can play whatever you want to, disguised or undisguised, with no limitations beyond what other players are willing to interact with.
.even if they are disguised.
You mean, like any other freakish race that isn't typically part of an adventuring party as per the 30 years of game history and, oh, 60 some years (probably much, much more) of literary history?
If Greyhawk is so xenophobic they would have ways of being able to detect outsiders.
Because in Greyhawk, not every community is designed to have an archmage or high priest capable of doing so. That, and most settings are built
without the childish Detect-Thump! paladin-archetype for a reason: It's annoying and does nothing to encourage roleplaying.
I understand what you are saying about the tieflings and dragon born, but why should they be the exception when everyone else is allowed as long as they have a disguise?
... which they already are, if you can find a way to hide what they are. I'm not saying to make them the bloody exception, I'm saying that no matter what nonsense 4E wants to put forth about them being acceptable standard PCs, that they sure as hell should
not be an exception to the "If you don't look like a human/elf/dwarf/halfling/gnome, you can't come to the Tavern without a disguise" rule.
I personally think this is going to cause a problem for experienced roleplayers as well as new ones. There are only going to be two rooms for anyone even thinking of using the tiefling or dragon born while everyone else gets to roam about freely as long as they remain disguised in the required settings.
You mean, like they are now? The only problem lies with the "Everyone is alright as long as they have fun" jargon of the modern age that leads to this kind of flawed thinking. D&D: the MMO Age should not, and I honestly believe, will not change the definition of logic, no matter how badly they want the dragonborn and tieflings to r0xx0rs.
Free form and loosely based on D&D rules at this point in time, seem to have collided because of thier direct differences. Its been admitted not everyone on this site uses d-n-d rules.
Yes, and? The settings of the site are based on D&D settings of ages past (and I say that for a reason). This is not loosely based, it is a
setting, a background for what we all freeform amidst, that gives us context for what we do. Any character played in the chats
can be played in any setting, in theory, but in reality, they won't make sense. Suggesting otherwise is like suggesting that we have knights on horseback get valet parking at TMP.
So why not cut out the loosely based on D-n-D and just leave it at free form play so anything and everything can be allowed? Seems to make sense to me. Thanks
Because that would destroy the context of the setting, which we've gone over eight-thousand times on these boards since the site move, and yet it never seems to sink in with the same few people, no matter how many times other patrons or the Magi explain it.
If you want to play something monstrous without a disguise, go to the Sigil rooms, this is what we (Rajak, myself, and others)
lobbied for. If you want to disguise something monstrous, and can make it look normal enough to fit in with a xenophobic human settlement, then you can visit the other settings.