5' step between attacks

[Quasqueton]

In our latest game, the question came up whether the monk could take a 5' step between his flurry attacks. Since the rules say you can take a 5' step between attacks in a full attack action, I said yes. But I figured I'd check in here and see if that is actually kosher with the RAW.

Can a monk take a 5' step between flurry attacks?

Can a dual fighter take a 5' step between attacks?

Can a archer take a 5' step between rapid shots?

Can a tripper take a 5' step between tripping and the follow-up attack?

Quasqueton

 

[Lasher Dragon]

Can a monk take a 5' step between flurry attacks? 1 5 ft. step, somewhere in there, yes

Can a dual fighter take a 5' step between attacks? 1 5 ft. step, somewhere in there, yes

Can a archer take a 5' step between rapid shots? 1 5 ft. step, somewhere in there, yes

Can a tripper take a 5' step between tripping and the follow-up attack? 1 5 ft. step, yes - but I fail to see how that could help - the follow-up attack has to be on the person you tripped....?

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

1) Can a monk take a 5' step between flurry attacks?

Yes.

2) Can a dual fighter take a 5' step between attacks?

Yes.

3) Can a archer take a 5' step between rapid shots?

Yes.

4) Can a tripper take a 5' step between tripping and the follow-up attack?

No.

The follow-up attack is resolved immediately. He could, however, trip, follow-up, 5', and trip again (with a follow-up, as required) if he wanted to, however.

 

[Gez]

Patryn saved me the trouble of typing all that. Ditto what he said.

Oh, a minor point of detail, however: If you have pounce or something else that lets you do a move and a full attack, then you can't use the 5-ft. step at all, of course; and usually, you'll have to make your move before all attacks.

 

[Pinotage]

The only thing I know of that allows a 5 ft step between attacks is the Dervish ability Dervish dance. You can only dance with a slashing weapon, though. I'm not sure if any of the monk weapons are slashing.

Pinotage

 

[Sir ThornCrest]

most importantly can a rogue back stab move 5' and do it again?

We have an 8th Assassin with silence Personal, invisibility & dual weild. He has in last nights game, killed 2 in one round, using his death strike 1st & a sneak attack 2nd. It was my ruling as the DM that although he studied both targets for 3 rounds that he could only "assassinate" one but he could excersise his sneak attack ability on the second , why? because they were standing next to each other. If they were more that 5' apart I would have ruled 1 only.....both targets were 3rd level guards by Nobles court.

Would you have ruled otherwise?

ThornCrest

 

[Lasher Dragon]

Well, the question is, was he using invisibility, or improved invisiblilty?

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

The only thing I know of that allows a 5 ft step between attacks is the Dervish ability Dervish dance. You can only dance with a slashing weapon, though. I'm not sure if any of the monk weapons are slashing.

Anyone may take a single 5' step at any point in the middle of a Full Attack action (including when using a Whirlwind Attack).

Dervish Dancing allows you to take as many 5' steps as you want, limited to a total distance moved of your movement, and you must move before each attack.

 

[TheEvil]

Don't forget that you can take a 5' step between attacks during a Whirlwind Attack.

*edit* Dang you Patryn, you beat me to it!

 

[Amal Shukup]

Well, the question is, was he using invisibility, or improved invisiblilty?

The second guard would still be flat footed (and subject to sneak damage) even if the Rogue/Assassin became suddenly visible in the middle of their full attack action.

However, the initial Death Attack probably ought to have occurred in the 'Surprise Round' - which would only allow a single attack (unless the Rogue/Assassin was so sneaky as to dispatch the first guard without being noticed). However, if the Rogue/Assassin won initiative (likely) he could then do a full attack against the 2nd guard with sneak attack damage...

A'Mal