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6E 50th Anniversary: 6E in 2024?

Xeviat

Adventurer
Supporter
The 50th anniversary of D&D is coming up in 2024. 5E came out in 2014 and is still going strong. I'm very interested to see if WotC is going to keep pushing on with 5E, give us a 6E, or do something different this time around. A big release for the 50th Anniversary seems like a no-brainer to me, though.

Here's my suspicion: I suspect a new PHB with updated ancestries, classes, and possibly other rules, bringing in improvements learned over the ten years. Improvements like smoothing out bonus actions, increasing options, while maintaining simplicity. But, what I also suspect is that it will still be compatible with existing material, that they're going to try to keep it to the same math, so that older adventures can still be played, since 5E has been driven so strongly by adventures.

Big picture, what are your suspicions for the 50th Anniversary?
 

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Maybe a 5.5. but I suggest the option to can buy separately the +0.5, the expansion with the update of the rules.

I thought the 6Ed would be in 2030 because the 5Ed is being sold too well for the risk of a new edition war. Also I thought about the next edition would be designed to allow all the genres, even sci-fi and superheroes, but this is a serious challenge for the game designers who try to find the right power balance when PCs can use gadgets and modern technology.

What to offer in a 5.5? Modula creation, as in Pathfinder 2, the class features and the racial traits could be replaced with others from an optional list.
 

ART!

Adventurer
Semi-ideally, we get a good, successful D&D-branded movie by or in 2024, and that provides impetus to a) stick with 5E, but b) update it. Going to 6E any time soon is probably not in the cards at all, but some time soon they're going to need or want a revised PHB.
 

ccs

40th lv DM
The 50th anniversary of D&D is coming up in 2024. 5E came out in 2014 and is still going strong. I'm very interested to see if WotC is going to keep pushing on with 5E, give us a 6E, or do something different this time around. A big release for the 50th Anniversary seems like a no-brainer to me, though.

Here's my suspicion: I suspect a new PHB with updated ancestries, classes, and possibly other rules, bringing in improvements learned over the ten years. Improvements like smoothing out bonus actions, increasing options, while maintaining simplicity. But, what I also suspect is that it will still be compatible with existing material, that they're going to try to keep it to the same math, so that older adventures can still be played, since 5E has been driven so strongly by adventures.

Big picture, what are your suspicions for the 50th Anniversary?

It's almost like you've read me making this very prediction sometime in the past 6 months - two years....
 

I think Tasha's is as close as we're likely to get to a 5.5e for quite awhile. Still, we've only worked our way through a quarter of the Circle of Eight, so there's a lot of room left.

6e will come out for the same reason every other edition came out: When WotC/Hasbro decides it makes business sense to invest the time in redeveloping content to sell to the same customers all over again. Developing the base game is much more time consuming and much more risky than supplemental content, so they'll likely do it after the brand has grown as much as 5e allows it to.

I wouldn't be too eager, either. 6e will likely choose to appeal to what has made 5e easy to grow faster: Streaming and online play. It may move the same direction as 4e tried to, with even more walled gardens than D&D Beyond offers. By then the FLGS might be a distant memory, killed by Amazon and COVID. They might decide against printed sales entirely.
 


NotAYakk

Legend
Prediction:
At the 50th anniversary, they'll release an updated version of a super-early version of D&D.

Maybe not chainmail era, but maybe including that as well.

Imagine a boxed product with a few eras of rules, from Chainmail up to (say) Red box, and then maybe a modernized Red box (no changes for "balance", just changes in formatting and presentation of the math; ie, replace THAC0 style tables with DC->modifier.)
 

What is the Circle of Eight?
The eight Wizards who came together to rule the City of Greyhawk.

The original members were Mordenkainen, Bigby, Bucknard, Drawmij, Leomund, Nystul, Otto, and Rary. It was preceeded by the Citadel of Eight, which shared some members.


Edit: I guess Tasha was never a member. I think I was misremembering Tenser, who later joined and left.
 

ccs

40th lv DM
Semi-ideally, we get a good, successful D&D-branded movie by or in 2024, and that provides impetus to a) stick with 5E, but b) update it. Going to 6E any time soon is probably not in the cards at all, but some time soon they're going to need or want a revised PHB.

I just don't get this player based obsession with a D&D movie & all the grand hopes that get pinned on it.
From the company side? Sure. It's more advertising & merchandising, etc etc etc. $ $ $. Every company ultimately wants that.
But in case you haven't noticed? D&D has done fantastic these past 5 years - without a branded movie goosing sales for a few months.

And yes, 6e is most definitely in the cards. No matter what is currently said/not said by the powers that be.
In fact, right now, 5e is following a very familiar & predictable path that leads to a new edition. They are re-printing adventures (not just doing things inspired by or homages to previous versions of those adventures - for EX PotA, SKT) with cosmetic tweaks, releasing incredibly niche books (the MTG settings) and about to release a book of completely optional stuff. And growing amounts of errata (not as bad as previously, but...) These are things that often happen towards the end of an edition.
And now they're starting to make socially influenced changes to both lore & mechanics.
2024? I 100% believe that that'd be a fantastic launch point for 6e & celebrate the 50th anniversary of our favorite game.
But at this rate I'll be surprised if they make it to that date.
 

The longest-lasting D&D edition to date was twelve years. Unless you count Basic D&D, which lasted far longer as a parallel line. A ten-year lifespan for 5e isn't outside the realm of possibility. That being said, sales of 5e continue to be good, and the D&D fanbase continues to grow.

Wizards has talked about 5e being an evergreen edition, but whether they can pull that off or not, remains to be seen. So far they're doing pretty well. I'd be happy for the game to hop off of the edition treadmill, that's for sure. But an updated PHB could entirely be possible.

Outside of edition speculation, I could see Greyhawk's return - it would have a certain synergy. IMDB, for what it's worth, still has the D&D movie listed as a 2022 release.
 
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ART!

Adventurer
I just don't get this player based obsession with a D&D movie & all the grand hopes that get pinned on it.
From the company side? Sure. It's more advertising & merchandising, etc etc etc. $ $ $. Every company ultimately wants that.
But in case you haven't noticed? D&D has done fantastic these past 5 years - without a branded movie goosing sales for a few months.

And yes, 6e is most definitely in the cards. No matter what is currently said/not said by the powers that be.
In fact, right now, 5e is following a very familiar & predictable path that leads to a new edition. They are re-printing adventures (not just doing things inspired by or homages to previous versions of those adventures - for EX PotA, SKT) with cosmetic tweaks, releasing incredibly niche books (the MTG settings) and about to release a book of completely optional stuff. And growing amounts of errata (not as bad as previously, but...) These are things that often happen towards the end of an edition.
And now they're starting to make socially influenced changes to both lore & mechanics.
2024? I 100% believe that that'd be a fantastic launch point for 6e & celebrate the 50th anniversary of our favorite game.
But at this rate I'll be surprised if they make it to that date.
Oh, I could take or leave a D&D movie, personally - unless it was great, of course. I was just trying to say that as a marketing tool, a successful movie would be a good thing to coordinate with some new editions, updates, and products.

The more I think about it, the more I think 6E will come sooner than a lot of people expect, especially if 6E is designed and coordinated with a solid set of digital tools. An updated - maybe backwards compatible with 5E? - game fully integrated into apps and VTTs would be hard to resist for...some? I guess backwards compatibility would be easier for the user with digital tools doing the work for you? Just thinking out loud...
 


Oofta

Title? I don't need no stinkin' title.
I don't see a 6E coming any time soon, sales are still going strong. Special anniversary boxed sets and prints I see coming. Cool boxed sets, maybe a special lines of minis, probably a "History of D&D" book.

That could all change of course if sales drop off. But for now? Why invest in a risky reboot when they don't have to? As Yogi Berra said, the future is hard to predict especially when it hasn't happened yet.
 

6e (as an upgrade of 5e) will come. At this point I feel the core classes would benefit from a bit of rebalancing/straightlining and also opening up some options at higher levels. Not that 6e is needed at that point, but it would be a mistake not to upgrade it. 4 years is a lot of time, and noone would feel really bad if 5e got a roundup. It is important, that you could still use all the 5e material with little to no modification. So I really expect only improvements on the player side. Maybe only the PHB as a new entry point.
 

Xeviat

Adventurer
Supporter
6e (as an upgrade of 5e) will come. At this point I feel the core classes would benefit from a bit of rebalancing/straightlining and also opening up some options at higher levels. Not that 6e is needed at that point, but it would be a mistake not to upgrade it. 4 years is a lot of time, and noone would feel really bad if 5e got a roundup. It is important, that you could still use all the 5e material with little to no modification. So I really expect only improvements on the player side. Maybe only the PHB as a new entry point.

More monster supplements would always be appreciated too.
 


GreenTengu

Adventurer
Given that the core races and classes of the game have been pretty busted in terms of balance since release-- let alone things that have appeared in expansion books, I think a 5.5E or 6E is well overdue. The single entry of "rapier" in the weapons table alone is a major hindrance to proper power balance in the game. And then there is the general issue of just way too many things being dependent upon Dexterity so that everyone wants their favorite race to be a Dexterity race to make them as powerful as possible-- meanwhile Intelligence is pretty useless except to a couple caster classes, and even then only if they choose spells that utilize DCs.

Now-- granted-- everything I see as a major issue has to do with rejigging the mechanics associated with the numbers that appear on PC's sheets and has very little to do with the general construction of monsters or adventures. So I suppose what I would like to see is more of a 5.5E that just fixes up the races and classes and changes up some of the stat dependencies to make Intelligence and Strength more worthwhile attributes while pulling back on just how much mileage one gets out of Dexterity.

Then again-- my wishlist would be to change up the PC races so that Orc, Goblin, Hobgoblin and maybe Kobold and Lizardfolk get included as core races that are just assumed denizens of every D&D world and people are expected to play while maybe moving Half-Elf and Half-Orc (and maybe Tiefling and Aasimar) to sort of "human variant options", include some version of the Warlord, if by a different name, as a base class as a non-religious, non-musical support class people can play. And I have to imagine my ideas on such things wouldn't be particularly popular.

But-- man-- waiting 3 more years for an overhaul?
 

OB1

Jedi Master
I don't see a 6e in 2024, but could see a reworked PHB that adds the most popular player options from Xanthar's and Tasha's (and perhaps other sources) into a single sourcebook as an entry point for new players, letting them get the best of 10 years of improvements without cleaning the slate and forcing existing players to invest in a whole new set of books. Could possibly see them refreshing the DMG as well, but think it would be more likely to see an Advanced DMG instead.

And then the Grognard's Guide to Greyhawk setting guide, with a set of optional rules for playing old school :)
 



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