D&D 5E 5E Survivor - Deities (Part 1: Forgotten Realms) Selune Advances!

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Yep. He stabbed him so hard he ascended.

I was incredulous when I read the novel in 1993.

I mean, okay, turns out Kelemvor's soul has been hidden by the intelligent sword that Cyric stabbed him with for the last decade, fine.

The sword was, it turns out, secretly Mask's avatar, okay.

Cyric breaks the sword, and Kelemvor's soul gets out. Not a problem.

Suddenly, without doing anything, Kelemvor has ascended to godhood -- wait, what the hell?

 

[humble minion]

Kelemvor 19 -2 = 17 (Seriously, he became a god because he died on the end of Cyric's sword? What the hell?)

Savras 1 Yeah, why exactly does the Forgotten Realms need 3 main gods of magic? Because with Azuth, Savras, and Mystra, it's already crowded, and that's not even counting the non-human gods of magic, like Corellon.

One of the problems with the FR pantheon is that, over time, so many evil deities were killed or replaced by good/neutral deities in order to provide happy endings in novels. Evil death god Myrkul got replaced by neutral Kelemvor, neutral magic god old-Mystra got replaced by good-aligned new-Mystra, Mask started trending distinctly neutral, Bhaal got killed, Bane got killed, Moander got killed, etc etc etc. The pantheon was running out of bad guys. 5e has tried to bring a few of the old evil gods back, but after they've been kicked around so many times, it's hard to take them seriously. And there's so many neutral concepts represented by good gods. Milil and Oghma for instance - what's so inherently virtuous about literature and music? And Tymora? What, evil people can't be lucky too?

Anyway.

Auril 27
Azuth 13
Chauntea 31
Deneir 13
Ilmater 32+1 = 33
Kelemvor 17
Lathander 20
Malar 17
Mielikki 30
Milil 15-2 = 13 I want Faerun to have an evil bard god now
Oghma 22
Savras 1
Selune 27
Silvanus 27
Sune 16
Talos 19
Tempus 28
Tymora 30
Tyr 25

 

[Omand]

Auril 27
Azuth 13
Chauntea 31
Deneir 13 - 2 = 11
Ilmater 33
Kelemvor 17
Lathander 20 + 1 = 21
Malar 17
Mielikki 30
Milil 13
Oghma 22
Savras 1
Selune 27
Silvanus 27
Sune 16
Talos 19
Tempus 28
Tymora 30
Tyr 25

 

[Argyle King]

Auril 27
Azuth 13
Chauntea 31
Deneir 11
Ilmater 33
Kelemvor 17
Lathander 21
Malar 17
Mielikki 30
Milil 13
Oghma 22
Savras 1
Selune 27
Silvanus 27
Sune 16
Talos 19 + 1 = 20
Tempus 28
Tymora 30 - 2 = 28
Tyr 25

 

[MNblockhead]

Auril 27
Azuth 13
Chauntea 31
Deneir 11
Ilmater 33
Kelemvor 17
Lathander 21
Malar 17
Mielikki 30
Milil 13
Oghma 22
Savras 1-2= -1
Selune 27+1=28
Silvanus 27
Sune 16
Talos 20
Tempus 28
Tymora 28
Tyr 25

 

[Ogre Mage]

Auril 27
Azuth 13
Chauntea 31
Deneir 9
Ilmater 33
Kelemvor 17
Lathander 21
Malar 17
Mielikki 30
Milil 13
Oghma 22
Selune 29
Silvanus 27
Sune 16
Talos 20
Tempus 28
Tymora 28
Tyr 25

 

[CleverNickName]

Auril 27
Azuth 13
Chauntea 31
Deneir 9
Ilmater 33+1=34
Kelemvor 17
Lathander 21
Malar 17
Mielikki 30
Milil 13
Oghma 22
Selune 29
Silvanus 27
Sune 16
Talos 20-2=18
Tempus 28
Tymora 28
Tyr 25

 

[Raduin711]

Milil and Oghma for instance - what's so inherently virtuous about literature and music? And Tymora? What, evil people can't be lucky too?

Anyway.

Look to the greeks for that. Art and Science were philosophically good because it elevated humanity.

Also, Tymora is one half of the goddess Tyche, who was split into Tymora and Beshaba as the twin goddesses of fortune and misfortune, hence the good fortune part of Tyche getting her benevolence. Her philosophy probably includes ideas like "sharing good fortune" and other ideas unpalatable to more selfish folks.


Auril 27
Azuth 13
Chauntea 31
Deneir 9
Ilmater 34
Kelemvor 17
Lathander 21+1 = 22
Malar 17
Mielikki 30
Milil 13
Oghma 22
Selune 29
Silvanus 27
Sune 16 -2 = 14
Talos 18
Tempus 28
Tymora 28
Tyr 25

 

[Tallifer]

@Tallifer , you’ve been cheering for ohgma all this long. I’m curious to know what makes this deity so attractive for you.

[edited for making actual sense]

<chuckles> only because the name reminds me of the beloved Aughra from the Dark Crystal.

Moreover Oghma is the patron of Bards.

 

[Tallifer]

Auril 27
Azuth 13
Chauntea 31
Deneir 9 -2 =7
Ilmater 34
Kelemvor 17
Lathander 22
Malar 17
Mielikki 30
Milil 13
Oghma 22 +1 =23
Selune 29
Silvanus 27
Sune 14
Talos 18
Tempus 28
Tymora 28
Tyr 25