D&D 5E 5E Survivor - Subclasses (Part XV: The FINAL ROUND)

RealAlHazred

Frumious Flumph (Your Grace/Your Eminence)
I feel good. Now, everybody should just be making Oath of the Ancients Paladins, right? They're objectively the best choice. Somebody should inform the OneD&D guys, they need to just make a single OotA Paladin class... maybe with a bunch of subclasses? Ooh, one that enlarges during fights! And one that is a ranged specialist! And one needs more spells!
 

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cwallach

Explorer
What I find interesting here is how one voter (me) probably changed the outcome. I downvoted bard at least a dozen times. If I hadn't been so steady, the bard might have won...

I suspect that I am not the only such person, that there are several cases like this where if one person had/hadn't been involved the outcome would have been different. We need more voters perhaps?
I down voted Thief every round after Mystic was gone.
 


EzekielRaiden

Follower of the Way
What I find interesting here is how one voter (me) probably changed the outcome. I downvoted bard at least a dozen times. If I hadn't been so steady, the bard might have won...

I suspect that I am not the only such person, that there are several cases like this where if one person had/hadn't been involved the outcome would have been different. We need more voters perhaps?
I mean, I was constantly working to get rid of the Fighter, and it remained until the "final five." I even missed a few days, during which time it rose but didn't clearly outstrip every other option.

Which shows the equilibrium forces at work here. There's psychological power in being the tall poppy or the "undeserved" underdog. I was also upvoting Bard the whole time, and Bard repeatedly flirted with disaster, only to reach the final three--when Barbarian, my predicted "dark horse" candidate, got rapidly demolished once Fighter was gone. People predicted Bard's demise for almost the entirety of the thread, and it nearly won. I'd say that's good evidence that even with partisans like you and me, things often have a way of working out.

Further, don't forget that there are a few accounts that have never posted anywhere other than these survivor threads and which were created only around the time the first survivor threads came into being...which has some unfortunate implications much more concerning than "is our electorate too small?"

That said, the way to address your concerns is either to make a "race to the finish" style thread (where scores go up over time until stuff crosses the finish line), or to use a hybrid of "survivor" and "racetrack," e.g. a survivor qualifying round to limit the number of racers and then a racetrack final round to determine the ranking of the survivors.
 

Argyle King

Legend
I feel good. Now, everybody should just be making Oath of the Ancients Paladins, right? They're objectively the best choice. Somebody should inform the OneD&D guys, they need to just make a single OotA Paladin class... maybe with a bunch of subclasses? Ooh, one that enlarges during fights! And one that is a ranged specialist! And one needs more spells!

Don't be ridiculous.

You're acting almost like there's some value in rugged and primal religions (or rougher/darker fantasy from the fringes of "civilization") having multiple ways to engage in the beliefs, styles, and ways of adventure -just like the Cleric, Paladin, and Rogue do.
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
I wonder just how different the outcome would have been if I hadn't broken them out by class, and instead posted just one long list of subclasses. At the very least, it would have made it harder for folks to focus on eliminating particular Classes.

We're seeing a bit of this What If scenario playing out over in the Species survivor thread, with folks hoping to eliminate entire groups of elves, humans, etc.
 

Xamnam

Loves Your Favorite Game
I wonder just how different the outcome would have been if I hadn't broken them out by class, and instead posted just one long list of subclasses. At the very least, it would have made it harder for folks to focus on eliminating particular Classes.
I'm still very curious how the ranked choice voting would go, even if we just left it at the final list of winning subclasses. Didn't want to steal thunder from your last survivor thread for the foreseeable future though.
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
I'm still very curious how the ranked choice voting would go, even if we just left it at the final list of winning subclasses. Didn't want to steal thunder from your last survivor thread for the foreseeable future though.
It'll be interesting to see how the next person handles these Survivor threads (if anyone does). My way is certainly not the only way to do it.
 

DND_Reborn

The High Aldwin
For anyone interested, here is a summary of the 60 voters and who they upvoted (green)/downvoted (red) and how many times. ;)

I've also attached the Excel file (zipped) if anyone wants to look more at it.

FINALS.png
 

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