A Feast for Crows Update.

[Belen]

Eh...I am tired of waiting on him and Jordan. I will not rush out and get the next book. Heck, I barely remember the other books now. From what I heard, he stopped writing because of issues in the political world and then started again.

And his updates are just annoying.

 

[Esteban]

Eh...I am tired of waiting on him and Jordan. I will not rush out and get the next book. Heck, I barely remember the other books now. From what I heard, he stopped writing because of issues in the political world and then started again.

And his updates are just annoying.

Yep, he was all depressed about the election results so he just couldn't write. Don't care what side of the political spectrum you are on, that was a feeble excuse. I doubt most people who voted for Kerry called into work and told their boss that they couldn't come in for a month because of the election results.

Look, I love Martin, and was a huge fan of his scifi back in the 1980s. The Game of Thrones is quickly becoming my favorite series of all time. But, as Teflon Billy stated, five years is way too long to wait for an entry in a series.

 

[KenM]

Where were these titles announced? I know that he was always targeting 6 books, with a possibility of 7, but this is the first I've heard anything about the titles of the remaining books.

What I heard was GRRM orginal planned it as a trilogy. But When he did an out line he thought it was too much and divided it into two triloiges, with 5 years between them. A Feast for Crows is a middle book between the two triloiges, not orginally planned.
I hope the reason this book is taking so long is that this was not orginally planned. I hope the other books come out at a faster pace.

 

[MaxKaladin]

What I heard was GRRM orginal planned it as a trilogy. But When he did an out line he thought it was too much and divided it into two triloiges, with 5 years between them. A Feast for Crows is a middle book between the two triloiges, not orginally planned.
I hope the reason this book is taking so long is that this was not orginally planned. I hope the other books come out at a faster pace.

Actually, I think he did that after book one or two was already out. I remember reading book one and waiting for books two and three then hearing first that he'd only just decided that it would take four books and then later six books to do the series.

 

[Cthulhu's Librarian]

What I heard was GRRM orginal planned it as a trilogy. But When he did an out line he thought it was too much and divided it into two triloiges, with 5 years between them. A Feast for Crows is a middle book between the two triloiges, not orginally planned.

Yes, that's what happened. The decision was made to expand from 3 to 6 books while the trilogy was being shopped around to the sf publishing houses. The editor I used to work for (John Douglas) was talking to GRRM about the trilogy when he was bidding on it, and made the suggestion that it be divided into two trilogies, as the outline had far too much in it for a single trilogy. So once the original trilogy was sold, GRRM negotiated a second contract for the second trilogy. The 7th book came much later, after the first trilogy was complete.

But I still want to know where Starman got the titles for the other books? It sounds like internet rumor to me, or those fake placeholder titles that Amazon occasionally makes up when trying to pre-sell a book.

 

[Aesmael]

Not quite fake. The titles were printed in the first Legends anthology and Martin has commented on them himself, I believe in the So Spake Martin archives at westeros.org (that's fan correspondence for those not familiar). He is/was not happy with 'A Time for Wolves', apparently that has been changed 'The Winds of Winter'.

My personal stance on the delay is to treat it as an aberration unless the same thing happens with the next book. Whenever it does show itself, I have a gift voucher waiting. Reading the entirety of the westeros discussion boards from the back does wonders for keeping one interested (I am still on the issues of '02 - some of the poor fools were still talking about the imminent release of Feast back then, I just hope the enlightened and interesting have not left the board by the time I catch up to the present).

 

[Starman]

Yeah, Martin has mentioned the names of the books in some interviews and his fan correspondance. Let me hunt for some links here...

Here we go: http://www.dragonsworn.com/features/georgerrmartin/interview.html

That is a recent interview with Martin. He talks about his career, the series, taking forever on the latest book, etc. He mentions the titles of the two books after Feast being A Dance with Dragons and The Winds of Winter.

Starman

 

[mhacdebhandia]

In contradiction to what seems to be the general current of feeling, I will say this:

The man owes you nothing except a good follow-up to the books he's written before - not a timely followup nor anything else.

Incessant demands that authors cave in to their audience's demands leads to creative bankruptcy like Arthur Conan Doyle or, *shudder*, the Brian Herbert Dune novels.

 

[JoeGKushner]

I'd go even further.

The author owes us nothing and we in turn, owe the author nothing.

Expecting your audience to wait for six-seven years is not a sound business plan and if he was writing to feed his wife and kids, I guarantee that book would be in our hands.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

Exactly. If you're dissatisfied with the product - the quality, the length of time it takes to arrive, whatever - then just don't buy it! Imagine that Danaerys takes off and nukes the site from orbit with dragonfire, it being the only way to be sure, and leave it at that.