A new undead I created; need suggestions.


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Looks good. A few minor issues:

Grapple should probably be +15(HD)+15(Str)+4(size) = +34.

Why no Darkvision, or no Listen or Spot skills for that matter?

Undead have no Con, and so the typically Con-based saves are usually based on Charisma instead. So the Grave Fortitude save DC would be 10 + 15(HD) + 2 (AF) + 8(Cha) = 35. Much tougher... otherwise not much benefit to a high Cha really since it's not incorporeal.
 

robjh said:
Undead have no Con, and so the typically Con-based saves are usually based on Charisma instead. So the Grave Fortitude save DC would be 10 + 15(HD) + 2 (AF) + 8(Cha) = 35. Much tougher... otherwise not much benefit to a high Cha really since it's not incorporeal.
Breath weapons usually remain Constitution-based, even if the creature has no Constitution. For example the breath weapon of the iron golem. That said, Charisma could work for the grave yawn, too.
 

Knight Otu said:
Breath weapons usually remain Constitution-based, even if the creature has no Constitution. For example the breath weapon of the iron golem. That said, Charisma could work for the grave yawn, too.

Does that make the DC excessively high, though? What would you recommend I make the DC, since I could alter the Charisma score to anything without really affecting the rest of the creature.

Oh, and good catches, Otu. I'll fix those mistakes when I get a chance tomorrow.
 

LordVyreth said:
Does that make the DC excessively high, though? What would you recommend I make the DC, since I could alter the Charisma score to anything without really affecting the rest of the creature.

Oh, and good catches, Otu. I'll fix those mistakes when I get a chance tomorrow.
It does not matter that the DC get's high. But it would only be 33, so it isn't that high, particularly considering that most PC's of a level equal to the creatures CR have access to Cloaks of Resistance +5, Luckstone Amulets, and Con Boosting items.
 

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