A successful "Realms-Shaking-Event"?

[AllisterH]

re: Greyhawk Wars

???? This wasn't well liked either by GH fans. Post "From the Ashes" GH, while it has its fans, regularly gets panned as not being "really" Greyhawk


re: The Last War
This one is akin to War of the Lance. The setting _INITIAL_ premise itself is based on dealing with a RSE so of course people are a-ok with it.

 

[ggroy]

re: Greyhawk Wars

???? This wasn't well liked either by GH fans. Post "From the Ashes" GH, while it has its fans, regularly gets panned as not being "really" Greyhawk

Several of my friends who are hardcore Greyhawk grognards, thought that the Greyhawk Wars were a total abomination of the setting. For quite a number of them, that was the last time they ever bought any new TSR/WotC products.

 

[billd91]

Crisis is LOUDLY hated on dcboards and comic sites like comicbookresources.com, sure it was Successful, YES. Popular, Hell no (ask a DC gan what they think of the original Crisis and Huntress/Hawkman/Powergirl....)

Internet board membership bias probably has an effect here. The buzz in the comics shops when the original Crisis was being sold was a lot more positive.

The same probably holds true for most pre-internet RSEs. I suspect you really have to have disliked the change to still be commenting on it on message boards many years later.

 

[ProfessorCirno]

*SPITS out pepsi*

Yoy OWE me a monitor Prof

Crisis is LOUDLY hated on dcboards and comic sites like comicbookresources.com, sure it was Successful, YES. Popular, Hell no (ask a DC gan what they think of the original Crisis and Huntress/Hawkman/Powergirl....)

My opinion is that every media property needs a reset after a while otherwise it becomes too lore heavy for any non-hardcore fans. Pandering to the base is never a good thing.

That said, Trek actually seemed to pull off the "reboot" trick

Well, which Crisis? ;p

I was VERY specific about which one I mentioned ;p

I don't doubt that quite a few people hated Crisis on Infinite Earths. But I'd contest that it was much more loved then it was hated. At least, well, to my knowledge.

Personally I'm far more of a manga guy then a DC/Marvel one <_<

 

[kitsune9]

Well, which Crisis? ;p

I was VERY specific about which one I mentioned ;p

I don't doubt that quite a few people hated Crisis on Infinite Earths. But I'd contest that it was much more loved then it was hated. At least, well, to my knowledge.

Personally I'm far more of a manga guy then a DC/Marvel one <_<

Sorry, I don't know too much about comic book shake-ups. Someone tell me about Crisis on Infinite Earths?

 

[ggroy]

Sorry, I don't know too much about comic book shake-ups. Someone tell me about Crisis on Infinite Earths?

Crisis on Infinite Earths - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Scribble]

Reading some of the posts about campaign settings has caused me to wonder: has there ever been a successful "Realms-shaking-event" in a D&D campaign setting? A setting which underwent a significant change (perhaps between editions) and the change was embraced by the majority of fans?

Successful is kind of subjective...

There was a lot of outcry against the 1e-2e FR change... but the setting still remained one of the top favorites.

I wonder if the old cliche' "any publicity is good publicity" applies here as well? Whether or not someone was arguing that the changes roxors or suxors they were still talking about the realms.

 

[samsimilian]

Star Wars Yuzang Vong Invasion/New Jedi Order. Oh, wait, that's neither D&D nor generally greeted.

in my opinion the njo + legacy series are by far the best star wars series in the expanded universe

 

[Cyronax]

At least we can all agree that Loeb's work in the RSE -- 'Ultimatum' limited series was a text-book case of hamfisted and poorly conceived and executed reboots.

The first Crisis really saved the DC universe after 50+ years of baggage. The recent ones were unnecessary.

/derail.


In concept I don't like RSEs. Eberron did the right thing by keeping the timeline in 998 YK. It really remains a DM's playground.

 

[an_idol_mind]

What major realms-shaking events have D&D settings seen?

-Dark Sun had the Prism Pentad series.
-Dragonlance has had its cataclysms.
-The Realms had the Time of Troubles and the Spellplague.
-Greyhawk had the Greyhawk Wars.
-Mystara had the Wrath of the Immortals.
-Planescape had the Faction War.
-Ravenloft had the Grand Conjunction.

Did I miss any big ones?

I don't think any of these is looked fondly upon today. That said, I imagine there must have been something going on sales-wise for so many events to happen. Most of these events happened in the mid to late years of 2nd edition, around the same time that White Wolf had their massive metaplot running through their various games.

In other media, comics had a ton of ill-conceived megaplots, including the death of Superman, the Clone Wars of Spider-Man, the breaking of Batman's back, the Green Lantern going completely insane, and the Onslaught saga running through all of the X-Men books. Babylon 5, which was essentially a five-year long mega-plot of a sci-fi show, was on the air, and Deep Space 9 was the big Star Trek series, which had some very complex long-running plots itself.

I dunno...maybe it was something about the 90s?