Excuse me?! I have always argued in good faith.
No I didn't. I included Bonus Actions right from the start. Go on, look back.I disagree. You presented a paradigm: dueling style, no feats + hunter's mark. We made spreadsheets. They disagreed with you assumption / analysis. You said - what about bonus actions. We said the ranger doesn't get any.
We said the ranger doesn't get any. You said yes they do - look at pole arm master.
No I didn't. I included Bonus Actions right from the start. Go on, look back.
Again, no I didn't. Someone said they couldn't think of how a PC could get Bonus Actions and I listed two: TWF and PAM. That PAM is excluded by my OP is irrelevant; the aim is to concentrate on the figures, not the background or the how. Your own spreadsheets prove my point by mandating the use of Action Surge for damage when Action Surge is not always available and has many other uses. And similarly with Smite damage for the Paladin, BTW.
That PAM is excluded by my OP is irrelevant; the aim is to concentrate on the figures, not the background or the how.
No feats.
I specified no feats so as to keep things simple.
However you wash it, "No feats" is a de facto fighter nerf.
Agreed.
Bad. Faith.
You're arguing in such bad faith I don't personally see the point of continuing to engage with the content. Though I admire Dave's continued patience and courteous demeanor nonetheless.
Don't the figures that you have been using for the Ranger include use of spells like Hunter's Mark? How is that different?Your own spreadsheets prove my point by mandating the use of Action Surge for damage when Action Surge is not always available and has many other uses. And similarly with Smite damage for the Paladin, BTW.