Abondoning a class

[Mulkhoran]

No, it doesn't make it "abuse." I take responsibility for this confusion because I wasn't clear enough at the outset, and I apologize to everyone involved - including Luvin - for this.

Guys, you should never be in a position where you feel you should have to second guess what a moderator wants. If I wanted Luvin to no longer use color tags - and really, why should I? It's a little annoying but certainly no sin - I should have said so explicitly*. Instead, I was trying to remind him that if fellow members are complaining about something then it's a little rude and tacky to keep doing it. My gentle suggestion understandably got interpreted as an order, and now we're in this pickle.

So: use color tags all you want, just exercise good judgment (and a bit of empathy for other folks) when using them exclusively. We'll let you know if it gets out of line. to a certain extent, annoying colors are self-regulating; use them, fewer people read your posts, fewer people respond to you, and pretty soon you might as well just be talking to yourself. That's one of the reasons that we don't worry about this too much unless someone is being really egregious.

Sorry to derail the thread. Carry on!

* Be aware that moderators often try to steer "problem" threads back with gentle suggestions, though, so in general it's best to follow moderator instructions even when they're not involved in a smackdown. One of the things that makes EN World run so well is that the members here use a phenomenal amount of good sense when posting. Believe me, we appreciate it.

I'm deeply sorry to derail this thread any further, but would it be possible to clarify one thing in this situation? It would certainly help me to understand the mods position here:

Does Luvin Lt. Fingers have the ability to use blue color tags back now, even though it may cause difficulty in reading?

Thank you,

- Mike

 

[Piratecat]

I'm deeply sorry to derail this thread any further, but would it be possible to clarify one thing in this situation? It would certainly help me to understand the mods position here:

Does Luvin Lt. Fingers have the ability to use blue color tags back now, even though it may cause difficulty in reading?

Yes. Using all color is usually its own punishment, because fewer people tend to respond to your posts. I see no need for censure over and beyond that unless the color or the member is really out of line.

Hopefully that makes our position clearer. If not, let's continue the discussion in the Meta forum so that we don't hijack this thread any further.

 

[Luvin Lt. Fingers]

WOW
OK.......
Originally I thought we were having a comical back-and-forth type discussion. I didn't realize people were seriously getting offended. In my campaign, my PC's representative colors are sky blue and silver. I was simply using the blue font to represent my PC (Luvin). I'm fairly new to EN and didn't know about the different backgrounds. I'm not "annoying" or "self indulgent" and I am surprised at the contraversy this caused so I'll probably use black now, though I still like the blue. Anyway, originally I just wanted to know about abandoning a PrC so thanks to those who responded.....I think I've got it know.

"I asked not for this retched mess, ey? Away with ye, lest my dagger find yer backside! 'Bout we all get along, eh?" --Luvin Lt. Fingers

 

[Tatsukun]

Personally, I’m dyslexic. So, for me it’s a LOT easier to read blue on black than white on black (or black on white). Color is really helpful to understanding for many people, not just dyslexics.

I guess I’m also chaotic enough to get really offended when a mod tells someone what color they can post in. If you don’t like it, skip it.

What’s next, everyone must use the mod’s favorite font? Grammar correction? Espouse the mod’s viewpoints?

Odd

-Tatsu

 

[Hypersmurf]

Color is really helpful...

Note the request from Piratecat above - if you want to keep talking about colours, please take it to the Meta Forum...

-Hyp.
(Moderator).

 

[apsuman]

WOW
OK.......
Originally I thought we were having a comical back-and-forth type discussion. I didn't realize people were seriously getting offended. In my campaign, my PC's representative colors are sky blue and silver. I was simply using the blue font to represent my PC (Luvin). I'm fairly new to EN and didn't know about the different backgrounds. I'm not "annoying" or "self indulgent" and I am surprised at the contraversy this caused so I'll probably use black now, though I still like the blue. Anyway, originally I just wanted to know about abandoning a PrC so thanks to those who responded.....I think I've got it know.

Welcome to EN World. I have found this a very nice place. I don't even have a game right now and I still visit.

 

[RangerWickett]

Wait a sec . . .

*is confused*

Hold on a sec. Um . . .

*makes Keanu Reeves expressions, as if trying to comprehend something deceptively simple*

So you're telling me I can dodge bull-? . . . No wait, that's not it.

Oh, yeah. Whoa. So, like, if I, y'know, like, am, y'know, a human, like, barbarian 1/bard 1/cleric 1/druid 1/fighter 1/psion 1/psychic warrior 1/ranger 1/rogue 1/sorcerer 1/soulknife 1/wilder 2/wizard 3, and then I take, like, another level of wilder, then I'd have one favored class (wizard) that's ignored, and, like, another class (wilder), that's more than 1 level away from my other classes, so those other 11 classes would give me a -220% XP penalty, so that whenever I gain 100 XP, I'd actually lose 120 XP.

So if, like, I lose, like, a level, then wouldn't I, y'know, go up a level? Whoa!

Excellent!

 

[apsuman]

My last post was cut short, I apologize. Anyway, welcome again Luvin'.

As for the warforged multiclasses character, if they took levels of fighter would they incur XP penalties?

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I would love to have a warforged multiclassed as

Paladin 3/Cleric 1/Ranger 1/Rogue 1/Wizard 1/Monk 1

He'd be completely unable to gain XP, with the excuse that his memory banks are full. If he could somehow gain another class, he'd have a -120% XP penalty, meaning level drains would make him gain XP.

Why do I suddenly have the mental picture of a weird-looking thing running into the lair of an extended vampire family and their weight servants, laughing mechanically?

 

[Pax]

So, like, if I, y'know, like, am, y'know, a human, like, barbarian 1/bard 1/cleric 1/druid 1/fighter 1/psion 1/psychic warrior 1/ranger 1/rogue 1/sorcerer 1/soulknife 1/wilder 2/wizard 3, and then I take, like, another level of wilder, then I'd have one favored class (wizard) that's ignored, and, like, another class (wilder), that's more than 1 level away from my other classes,

Making you, thus, a 1/bard 1/cleric 1/druid 1/fighter 1/psion 1/psychic warrior 1/ranger 1/rogue 1/sorcerer 1/soulknife 3/wilder 3/wizard ... either Wizard or Wilder is counted as "preferred".

so those other 11 classes would give me a -220% XP penalty, so that whenever I gain 100 XP, I'd actually lose 120 XP.

You have a BUNCH of 1st level classes, and one one class [Wilder(3)] which is out of balance with the others. You thus have only a 20% experience penalty with the classes and levels you describe.

To take a 120% penalty, you would have to be a 1/bard 3/cleric 5/druid 7/fighter 9/psion 11/psychic warrior 13/ranger 15/rogue 17/sorcerer 19/soulknife 21/wilder 23/wizard 25/barbarian.

Barbarian, the highest level you have, would become preferred. That leaves you with twelve other classes - and no matter how you look at it, you have eleven classes that are 2 or more levels out of balance with whichever class you decide to count from.

That would produce a -220% experience penalty ... but you need to be a 169th-level character to pull it off.

^_^