About Reveille

[Bront]

I'm not an alt.

Sorry, had you mixed up with another on the list.

Nightfall was banned from CM for being a human spambot. I'd guess he got banned here for the same reason.

 

[Wik]

I remember when NF got banned - I don't know the exact reason, but I'd guess it was for the reason everyone said. There was some sort of "ask Wotc questions on 4e" thread, or something, and Nightfall LITERALLY made every second post. And it was like "Good point", or "Yeah, I agree".

Made the whole thing very difficult to read. And I remember times when I'd load ENWorld only to see EVERY thread having last been commented on by him. Once, when I was bored and a little spiteful, I tried to post over him, but I couldn't win. He'd just make quick one sentence posts, and I realized it was a pointless game. He was trying to "win" forum posting, or something.

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On the subject of Rev's alts... yikes. That's definitely a little weird. I think I may have an alt here, a mispelling of my current screen name. Beyond that... I think I'm alright.

That being said, I don't think getting rid of multiple accounts is going to stop this sort of behaviour, for a couple of reasons. For one, it makes multiple posters using the same computer impossible (and what if, in a real situation, "rev's Mandy" wanted to make an announcement?). Second, I know there are probably a few play-by-posters who use their character's name as their screenname.

And third, sometimes it's a bit fun. on another message board, I remember making alts of some of my online friends and teasing them in a fun way. Make quotes that were gently teasing of their personalities, and that sort of thing. It can be a fun way to liven up a forumboard.

Besides, the real liars/con-artists will always find a way to keep ahead of the technology.

 

[Zelligars Apprentice]

Wow.

A lot of what I am thinking about this has already been posted. I won't repeat that; I'll just say that this guy is a real piece of work. I was one of the ones duped, and feel really stupid now. Of course, this isn't the first time I have fallen for something like this. Maybe I am just naturally gullible.

In light of this whole mess, I have a humble suggestion for the admins, which, on second thought, I will post in a forked thread.

 

[Jack99]

I can assure you, the admin and moderating staff will be having some discussions about this, and we'll review our policies and consider viable technological aids to help prevent this sort of thing happening in the future.

We are not, however, going to do that as a knee-jerk reaction. We are not going to take action out of fear or anger or frustration. We're going to take our time about it, and make sure that we are considering consequences carefully.

Sounds like you guys got us covered well. Thanks.

 

[broghammerj]

On a different note, I wonder why a person in a coma talking about the gods of faerun would set off alarm bells? A person in coma does talk, and they often talk about things that happened in their life, or things that make no sense to family members. So a gamer, talking about deities from a game he was prepping for while in a coma, is a very real possibility. So I am curious as to why that was suspicious to people.

I was pretty suspicious to start with....I am a medical doctor. In my limited experience people don't slip off into comas without some traumatic brain injury, serious infectious illness, or dramatic seizure activity. Most of these are diagnosed with CT/MRI, lumbar puncture (spinal tap), and EEG (recording brainwaves). We don't get things from episodes of "House" where we are totally mystified.

That being said, I am a urologist not a neurologist so I didn't really want to call a lay person out on the internet. Listening to patients tell me about their own care is interesting for a couple of reasons. Patients only get about half of it right. I have a decent idea of what is usually done for the standard of care. I also have the advantage of records in front of me. People understanding what is going on with their family is even worse. The story of Mandy seeing Rev flatline and being resuscitated is plausible as alarms typically sound prior to someone going asystolic. Also meds may have brought him back into a shockable rythym.....altough we don't usually let people hang around to watch a code.

Unless you're Monte Cooke slipping into a coma while you're in the middle of writing 3rd ed rules I think spouting off RPG material is a little far fetched.

My personal thoughts:
1. Medicine and message boards don't mix.
2. (edited) To me this is an online forum for discussion of DnD and we shouldn't lose sight of that. (edited for something I can't communicate well online therefore elected to erase so as to not offend)
3. The only outpouring of sympathy I have ever chosen to share on the board was for the passing of EGG which seemed an appropriate venue as his family posted here.
4. I find it oddly relevant given the circumstances that my user name is my real name. Somehow it adds credibility. Perhaps I won't change it to my usual username after all.

 

[CleverNickName]

I can assure you, the admin and moderating staff will be having some discussions about this, and we'll review our policies and consider viable technological aids to help prevent this sort of thing happening in the future.

We are not, however, going to do that as a knee-jerk reaction. We are not going to take action out of fear or anger or frustration. We're going to take our time about it, and make sure that we are considering consequences carefully.

Thanks for putting my mind at ease, Umbran.

I re-read my earlier post, and I think it might have sounded a little off-putting. So just to be clear: I wasn't suggesting that the admins and moderators weren't doing enough to stop or prevent this kind of behavior. I've been very impressed with the way this delicate and unfortunate situation has been (and continues to be) handled.

 

[S'mon]

This has certainly demonstrated again the high standard of moderating on ENW. It kinda spoils me - when on rpgnet I see the dribble that claims to be moderating there and I can't believe my eyes.

 

[broghammerj]

Thanks for putting my mind at ease, Umbran.

I re-read my earlier post, and I think it might have sounded a little off-putting. So just to be clear: I wasn't suggesting that the admins and moderators weren't doing enough to stop or prevent this kind of behavior. I've been very impressed with the way this delicate and unfortunate situation has been (and continues to be) handled.

The mods have done an outstanding job in this difficult time. This thread allows a little healing process for the community which is appreciated.

I would pose this question to the mods. Please realize I am not trying to flame and this is not a disagreement with how things were handled. This is more meant as a launching point for discussion which may help to shape Enworld in the future. If you feel what I write is inappropriate then please feel free to erase it.

What if someone didn't have the tact that Catclaw had about calling the post a hoax? What if someone had just come out and simply said, "I think this thread is a hoax." Given the subject of the original post (a well know/well liked Enworld member) with health problems and updates posted by family members, would you have responded with some sort of post erasing or potential ban? I would think you would almost have had to.

I think many people felt that way but for the sake of civility correctly chose to say nothing. If the person who opted to post had been reprimanded how would that look in the face of the current outcome?

The reason I pose these questions is that Enworld is two things. 1st a forum to for discussion of RPGs, most specifically DnD. The second is that it is a community. Your milage on the term community can vary. For some it is a social outlet. For me personally it is not. I realize many people have gamed together, met at Gencon or other regional gamedays, etc. which adds to the community aspect of things. I hang out here to discuss DnD with like minded people.

My question is this. Does a post on Mandy's Rev take away from the focus of what this board is....a DnD board? Should personal discussions such as this be avoided? Could discussions of these sorts of things between close members in this community be better served through personal messaging. The board could facilitate this and still keep a community feel as a result without going "public" with things of this nature.

Just something to think about as this shapes the future of things here.

 

[RSKennan]

I haven't been around much, but I remember him under his old name. Coming here today to find the forums running at a decent speed again and finding this drama is surprising. This might have been an attempt at...something, but ultimately it's pretty low. I remember AngelsBoi. I remember others on other fora who have died. And of course, EGG.

There are real people behind these screen names, and sometimes they die. To try to capitalize (to whatever end) on the real feelings some of us have at the tribulations of other forum members is heartless at best.

I'm glad I didn't see this before the veil came down. To be honest, reading the original thread now, it's not very plausible, but hindsight is 20/20, and I honestly can't say how I might have reacted, and if I believed the first couple of posts, how much more I might be willing to rationalize. But this isn't about me at all. I just felt like I had to post because I'm hoping that no no one tries this again here, and that others don't become cynical over this. The community aspect of this site, even though I haven't been as much a part of it as I might have been, is its strength. People here genuinely care about each other, and there aren't many places like that on the internet if you're not in a clique. EN World has always been a big village. I hope it stays that way.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I think tue simplest ans least intrusive was to do it would be to ask a mod or report the post.

Enworld Is about gaming foremost, but it is also a community, and that creates social relationships, even if only between our Internet personas. That is inevitable. Some relationships are closer than others. Sometimes , you come for the Dm advice but stay for the people.

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The mods have done an outstanding job in this difficult time. This thread allows a little healing process for the community which is appreciated.

I would pose this question to the mods. Please realize I am not trying to flame and this is not a disagreement with how things were handled. This is more meant as a launching point for discussion which may help to shape Enworld in the future. If you feel what I write is inappropriate then please feel free to erase it.

What if someone didn't have the tact that Catclaw had about calling the post a hoax? What if someone had just come out and simply said, "I think this thread is a hoax." Given the subject of the original post (a well know/well liked Enworld member) with health problems and updates posted by family members, would you have responded with some sort of post erasing or potential ban? I would think you would almost have had to.

I think many people felt that way but for the sake of civility correctly chose to say nothing. If the person who opted to post had been reprimanded how would that look in the face of the current outcome?

The reason I pose these questions is that Enworld is two things. 1st a forum to for discussion of RPGs, most specifically DnD. The second is that it is a community. Your milage on the term community can vary. For some it is a social outlet. For me personally it is not. I realize many people have gamed together, met at Gencon or other regional gamedays, etc. which adds to the community aspect of things. I hang out here to discuss DnD with like minded people.

My question is this. Does a post on Mandy's Rev take away from the focus of what this board is....a DnD board? Should personal discussions such as this be avoided? Could discussions of these sorts of things between close members in this community be better served through personal messaging. The board could facilitate this and still keep a community feel as a result without going "public" with things of this nature.

Just something to think about as this shapes the future of things here.