About Reveille

[Maggan]

Should personal discussions such as this be avoided? Could discussions of these sorts of things between close members in this community be better served through personal messaging. The board could facilitate this and still keep a community feel as a result without going "public" with things of this nature.

I think you have a very good point. All through the "incident" I was thinking that it would be better for "Mandy" to turn to people close to her IRL, instead of pouring her heart out to total strangers on the Internet.

/M

 

[Asmo]

I really don´t know what to say - I´ve been posting/lurking since Eric N kicked this movement into action with his site back in the day, but this is easily the most disturbing thing during all these years.
I just hope that everybody will recover and find joy again.
Happy posting, all of you.

Asmo

 

[JRRNeiklot]

That's taking it a bit far. Understandable since emotions are flying high now. But look at it this way; over on CM, a user named Del faked his own death. The community banded together and an outpouring of sympathy came forth. When it was learned that it was an "April Fools" joke, he was quickly and vehemently chastised. He wasn't banned but he, smartly, never came back. The community had spoken and he paid heed.

His behavior didn't cause the rest of us to become more cynical and scoff others when they had problems, saying things like "this is just Del all over again." No, we kept going and treated everyone the same. In fact, we probably became a bit closer because we all had more in common; our sympathy for Del at first and then our loathing of him. It also allowed folks to see other member's true colors; it's amazing how much of a person's true nature can be gleaned by how they treat others in a moment of crisis.

I think folks here should wait at least a week or more to let their emotions run their course before deciding on a more "permanent" punishment for Rev.

I concur. Just because little Johnny cries wolf, and there is no wolf, does not mean I won't come running when Sally does.

 

[JRRNeiklot]

The part that ticks me off the most is that when something like this happens, it takes the trust that a community has in one or more of its members who have met each other in person, gamed with them, fellowshipped with them, and smashes it.

It makes any future discussions of someone's health or well-being suspect, and makes people distrustful of REAL situations like that in the future. How would someone like Angelsboi's death, or Chairman Kaga's, be received if you had a dozen people yelling "TROLL!" to them or friends of theirs who posted about their circumstances? Diaglo, Joe Carriker, and others knew Angelsboi personally, and I can only hope when he passed no one was tempted to yell " It's FAKE!" when it happened because of events like this recent one.

That's the real loss to me in a situation like this. I'll still continue to care, and offer help or kind words where I can, but it just adds one more barrier of distrust to a community that I otherwise consider to be a pretty friendly group of people.

Again, you can't (or at least should not) doubt other people because one person wronged you. I fell for the "joke." But if someone else posted something similar, I'd take it as truth until evidence showed otherwise. When one person blows your trust, you stop trusting THEM. Not all of humanity.

 

[Quartz]

I've not read the whole thread, but sadly I've seen this before on other boards. One board I frequent has what seems a good policy: such threads are locked and disappeared until they can be verified. Then they're opened up for public comment.

 

[WhatGravitas]

Enworld Is about gaming foremost, but it is also a community, and that creates social relationships, even if only between our Internet personas. That is inevitable. Some relationships are closer than others. Sometimes , you come for the Dm advice but stay for the people.

Furthermore, Fru/Rev was (AFAIK) seen/met on GenCon and also well-liked by the core community (i.e. the people who are with ENWorld since the start - or even longer - and eventually became moderators and so on).

In a way, he way definitively in the nimbus of the core members.

Since the core community shapes the tone of the forum, it's pretty natural that even people coming for D&D pick up these vibes (and the disappointment) - after all, we humans are social beings, even if text is a poor communication medium, *something* can come across.

Cheers, LT.

 

[JRRNeiklot]

Now being made aware of what he was doing in the HIVE I am now OK with permanently banning him.

I don't see how that is even relevant to banning him here. Banning someone because of their behavior elsewhere seems a bit too Big Brotherish to me. I'm not saying he didn't deserve banning, but ban him for what he did here, not elsewhere.

 

[WhatGravitas]

I don't see how that is even relevant to banning him here. Banning someone because of their behavior elsewhere seems a bit too Big Brotherish to me. I'm not saying he didn't deserve banning, but ban him for what he did here, not elsewhere.

The hive is part of ENWorld (in the off-topic forum), so it's not for "elsewhere".

Cheers, LT.

 

[JRRNeiklot]

The hive is part of ENWorld (in the off-topic forum), so it's not for "elsewhere".

Cheers, LT.

I stand corrected. I wasn't aware of that, as I pretty much only visit this forum. Ignore my drivel above.

 

[Blastin]

I think tue simplest ans least intrusive was to do it would be to ask a mod or report the post.

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Well...I don't know if anyone else did, but asking a mod is exactly what I did. I'm in medicine as well ( a PA for 17yrs and working in-patient/ICU for the past year) and the posts set off all kinds of alarm bells at first, more when "she" said about him going flatline and the Defib. When the Gods post was placed is when I sent a message to the mods. I didn't want to do like one of the above posters said and just say "this is a hoax" in the thread.
I've been on boards where this has happened before so I'm kinda cynical, but still try and give people the benefit of the doubt. I think that asking the mods to confirm or investigate suspicious posts is the way to go.