AC 56 at level 6! You too can do it!

[Legildur]

Please don't rebut with something like "Gestalt would be cheating" because I'll just come back with "And PgtF and SS aren't?!"

So true.

 

[hanniball]

I want to encourage people to be able to min/max themselves, not to rely on other people posting every little detail. It's feed a man a fish versus teach a man to fish.

While a noble and respectable notion, the rhetoric with which you present such a premise is rather disparaging. However, I will attempt a fairly "easy" method of obtaining a similar armor class to stave off the naysayers. Keep in mind, this is all off the top of my head so it will, perhaps, contain mistakes.

Human Agnostic Cleric 6
Domains: Spell, Plant
Feats: Combat Expertise (1), Divine Spell Power (Human), Dodge (3), Divine Shield (6)
Relevant Ability Scores: Int 13, Wis 13, Cha 22 (18 base, +3 venerable, +1 level)
Relevant Items: +1 Defending Morningstar (8,308 gp), Scroll of Greater Magic Weapon (CL 16, 1,600 gp)

Preparation:
-Using Divine spell Power, get your caster level to 9 (10 or higher on a D20) when casting Barkskin and Magic Vestment.
-Use scroll of Greater Magic Weapon to make your morningstar +4.
-Cast Eagle's Splendor to adjust your Charisma to 26.

AC Calculation:
10 Base
+8 [armor] Full Plate Mail
+2 [enhancement] Magic Vestment
+10 [shield] Heavy Steel Shield + Divine Shield feat
+2 [enhancement] Magic Vestment
+6 [natural] Alter Self into a Troglodyt (cast via Anyspell)
+4 [enhancement] Barkskin Domain spell
+3 [deflection] Shield of Faith
+1 [dodge] Dodge feat
+4 [unamed] Defending weapon quality
+4 [dodge] Combat Expertise
+1 [unamed] Dexterity
= 55, 23 touch, 33 flat-footed

Spells used:
3 3rd lvl
2 2nd lvl
1 1st lvl

Damn, I'm one point off. Now, if only I knew of this mythical +20 nat armor race...

( I assume one of the feats allows you add int as a bonus to AC?)

I believe that is the benefit of Carmendine Monk.

 

[geosapient]

I said that most PLAYERS can do it (the ones who can't are those who are incapable of either reading splatbooks or correctly performing math.)

The only reasons players don't do it are because either they don't realize they can do it, or they are too lazy to do it. I posted up here to address that first issue. You can address the latter issue yourself.

I like this statement. I like it because now I'm just a person who's incapable of reading, performing basic math skills, lazy or some combonation of the three.

And I'm not a single income person with a mortgage, bills to pay, car to pay off, food to buy or any other expenses.

I guess if I wasn't a lazy, illiterate bastard with the mental ability of a retard I'd be able to build a non-optimal high AC character with books that I can't afford.

I don't really care that you yourself are too lazy or god-like to be bothered with proving yourself. But don't think for even one second that anyone who doesn't do it is because they lack ability or motivation and not resources.

This thread should have been shut down before it got off the first page.

 

[Quartz]

I don't know about the Dwarf Ancestor build, but people seem to forget that the Ancestor is only the occupying spirit: you need a handy statue available.

 

[Iku Rex]

I don't know about the Dwarf Ancestor build, but people seem to forget that the Ancestor is only the occupying spirit: you need a handy statue available.

You seem to forget that I already replied to this objection:

You don't need to carry around the statue used in the ritual to summon a dwarf ancestor in order to change into one. "Dwarf ancestor" is a corporeal outsider and a valid form for alter self. ("Always LG Large outsider (native)".)

 

[Particle_Man]

This thread is making me see the value of using Core Rules Only. I imagine that the maximum AC at 6th level would be considerably lower, then.

 

[the Jester]

Let's see....

Wild assertions unbacked by evidence, chained to statements that insinuate that you're stupid or lazy if you can't figure it out- yep, someone is playing for attention.

 

[the Jester]

Nor do I intend to spoonfeed people who happen to randomly stop by the boards and just want a min/max build without properly understanding how it works. I want to encourage people to be able to min/max themselves, not to rely on other people posting every little detail. It's feed a man a fish versus teach a man to fish.

Thanks for helping everyone out!!1!!

 

[fusangite]

Wow! This thread reminds me of just how much unbalancing crap has been published for D&D.

 

[pogre]

You seem to be misunderstanding - I've already shown it. It's in the other thread.

That fact aside, do I owe you something? My only point is that it can be done and I want to raise awareness of that fact. You seem to accuse me of looking for the fawning adoration of the masses.

Gosh, what could have led me astray? Perhaps the title to this thread?

Characters - AC 56 at level 6! You too can do it!

It's kind of weird like that. When I label my thread painted miniatures I don't tell people how great I am at painting miniatures. I show them pictures and let them judge for themselves. Kind of the whole point of a thread title.

So yeah, you do owe me something.