Acquisitions Inc. switching to Daggerheart

[kermit4karate]

I did a business post-grad a long time ago. Supply and demand is tricky. The best possible result for a supplier is to sell out of all-but-one product. Then you know you met the potential demand with the minimal over production. If you sell out, you have no hard indication of how big the remaining market is - it could be one customer or 100,000. Assuming that your remaining untapped market is huge is dangerous since you could be left with significant unsold inventory.

So, they will be taking stabs at estimating their remaining potential sales every time they run out. They may be doing re-print runs smaller than the original print run since the remaining market is potentially smaller than the original estimate. So every re-print does not necessarily constitute another x1 adding to the original size of the run (x2, x3 etc.).

Great points.

 

[Maxperson]

I tried to get George R. R. Martin to play some one-page TTRPGs with me.

But it never worked out.

GRRM never had the pages.

The other day I was shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, to see an article saying that George R. R. Martin has stepped away from writing Winds of Winter to promote something else. I felt sooooooo blindsided.

 

[Parmandur]

Wait so the printing of a book is determined by the type setting as opposed to... well... the print runs?

Yeah, it is when they change the text with errata, again yo my understanding.

 

[Maxperson]

I'm pretty sure Darrington is not planning, or even hoping to bring down D&D. Darrington is excited about Daggerheart and definitely has many plans for it. My guess, is they'd like to continue to see the enthusiasm for the game grow and profit, so they can continue bringing out cool supports for it. That's it.

Yeah. I really doubt they want to take down D&D. D&D brings tons of new players into the market, many of whom may move on to other pastures. D&D being here only helps Daggerheart grow.

 

[Parmandur]

Yeah. I really doubt they want to take down D&D. D&D brings tons of new players into the market, many of whom may move on to other pastures. D&D being here only helps Daggerheart grow.

Also, everyone involved does like D&D: Chris Perkins and Jeremy Crawford as Darrington Press employees even went and played 5E with WotC folks for their own amusement at GenCon.

It's not a zero-sum world, games other than D&D can grow and thrive without taking something away.

 

[Imaro]

Printer's key - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This seems to indicate edition is based on typesetting changes and print runs determine the printing...

 

[Parmandur]

This seems to indicate edition is based on typesetting changes and print runs determine the printing...

Change of ISBN means the Edition is changed. Errata means corrections to the same ISBN.

From the article, "Bibliographers usually define a first edition as all printings from substantially the same type setting, no matter how many printings are done."

 

[Imaro]

Change of ISBN means the Edition is changed. Errata means corrections to the same ISBN.

From the article, "Bibliographers usually define a first edition as all printings from substantially the same type setting, no matter how many printings are done."

So same type setting = same edition...
Different type setting = different edition... am I missing something in the quote (im seriously not following here)?

 

[Parmandur]

So same type setting = same edition...
Different type setting = different edition... am I missing something in the quote (im seriously not following here)?

No, a new edition is when changes are so complete the ISBN registration has to be changed with the government (this is why the new core rulebooks for D&D, if they are anything, are the 9th edition of the PHB & DMG, at least, since they are the 9th set of ISBNs issued for that title).

A print run is when the typesetting has been corrected with errata to correct issues with the prior print runs, but are minor enough changes that the book still has the same ISBN. Ao they can make more books in the first printing at any time, it becomes the second printing when what is being printed has been changed.

Now, I think it is possible they are slow rolling the printing of new books until they get that errata fully sorted, hence the supply issues. Doesn't mean they haven't been printing some, probsvly still trying to figure out how big their market is still.

 

[Imaro]

No, a new edition is when changes are so complete the ISBN registration has to be changed with the government (this is why the new core rulebooks for D&D, if they are anything, are the 9th edition of the PHB & DMG, at least, since they are the 9th set of ISBNs issued for that title).

A print run is when the typesetting has been corrected with errata to correct issues with the prior print runs, but are minor enough changes that the book still has the same ISBN. Ao they can make more books in the first printing at any time, it becomes the second printing when what is being printed has been changed.

Now, I think it is possible they are slow rolling the printing of new books until they get that errata fully sorted, hence the supply issues. Doesn't mean they haven't been printing some, probsvly still trying to figure out how big their market is still.

Where are you seeing the ISBN information? Or for that matter the info on errata & print runs?