AD&D First Edition inferior?

[GENEWEIGEL]

You mean the D&D based series where the main character didn't actually comply with the rules for PCs? The one where a set of ad hoc additions to the rules had to be made to accomodate the character? You really think this demonstrates the flexibility of the 1e rule set?

GYGAX THAT STINKING FRAUD!!!!!

Where is he?!?

Let me kill him!!!!

I'll get him for making Gord some sort of grandson of the Cat Lord!

Demigods? I don't believe in em!!!!!

 

[Storm Raven]

GYGAX THAT STINKING FRAUD!!!!!

Where is he?!?

Let me kill him!!!!

I'll get him for making Gord some sort of grandson of the Cat Lord!

Demigods? I don't believe in em!!!!!

You kinda miss the point. The Gord books were held up as an example of the "flexibility" of the 1e system. I'm not sure how a game system based book that needs to make ad hoc changes to the rules to accomodate its main character is an example of the "flexibility" of the game system.

 

[Storm Raven]

Don't forget all markets are dynamic and I'm just stating a huge market is being neglected.

Other than your say-so and a handful of anecdotes, what evidence do we have that a huge market is being neglected? What evidence do you intend to provide to show that there is a "huge market" of 1e players wanting to buy 1e stuff?

 

[Theuderic]

You kinda miss the point. The Gord books were held up as an example of the "flexibility" of the 1e system.

That's the way to be objective Storm Raven.

 

[Theuderic]

Other than your say-so and a handful of anecdotes, what evidence do we have that a huge market is being neglected? What evidence do you intend to provide to show that there is a "huge market" of 1e players wanting to buy 1e stuff?

And what evidence do you have to the contrary?

 

[Theuderic]

If you want just a piece of the audience that is on the internet then go to Dragonsfoot.org and Kenzer & Co. If you want to really find out there is no way of finding out for sure even if you did post a poll. It seems that you are wasting your talents on this thread.

 

[Storm Raven]

Well...I can guarantee this, if you are a Power Gamer (not necessarily Munchkin, so don't put words in my mouth) then 3rd Edition is much better for you.

3rd edition is MUCH more easily power gamed then 1st edition is...and I mean MUCH more easily.

You are nuts. In 1e, power gaming was as easy as playing a UA based Grey Elf Fighter/Magic-User.

 

[Theuderic]

You are nuts.

Now we are getting somewhere. Good one Storm Raven. Now you are reverting to telling people they are crazy. Very nice.

 

[Storm Raven]

If you want just a piece of the audience that is on the internet then go to Dragonsfoot.org and Kenzer & Co. If you want to really find out there is no way of finding out for sure even if you did post a poll. It seems that you are wasting your talents on this thread.

I suppose a rough guess could be had by comparing the relative sales of the Hackmaster PHB with the 3e D&D PHB. If we could get that, we could see just how bug the potential market might be.

Looking at Dragonsfoot.org and Kenzer & Co. is unlikely to provide meaningful data for the simple reason of scale. Suppose there is a base of 15,000 people who want 1e products. That seems large. That will likely fill up 1e based websites to brimming, making the number of 1e afficionadoes seem numerous.

But in an enviroment in which the PHB sells 500,000+ copies, are 15,000 people outside the target market really a "huge" market waiting to be tapped? I don't think so. On that scale, the 1e fans are small potatoes.

 

[jasamcarl]

And what evidence do you have to the contrary?

Theuderic, do you know what a fallacy is?