Addicted to buying 1e AD&D Player's Handbooks!

[Chainsaw Mage]

Seeing as we play with these Supplements and a homebrew class and race to boot, I'm going to have to disagree.

Do you disagree with the smiley too?

 

[Chainsaw Mage]

As I recall, though, the 1e UA Cavalier was not a subclass of Fighter.

Correct. In fact, the Paladin became a subclass of the Cavalier.

 

[thedungeondelver]

Correct. In fact, the Paladin became a subclass of the Cavalier.

That had it's good and bad points but generally I don't agree with the "paladin as a sub-cavalier" move.

 

[Mark CMG]

You could ask Frank Mentzer; he seems to have a good handle on TSR production info and that might give you some insight.

(Assuming you meant how many Player's Handbooks still existed and not people who prefer older editions )

He's a good source for lore (such as possible print runs of editions), no doubt. I wonder how much he helps The Acaeum with information?

 

[thedungeondelver]

He's a good source for lore (such as possible print runs of editions), no doubt. I wonder how much he helps The Acaeum with information?

He pops in from time to time over there and posts corrections if someone's really laying the BS thick ("Only five DMGs were sold - EVER!", well that's a bit extreme but you see where I'm coming from.)

The first time I met Frank he was carrying a stack of TSR "digest-sized" games from the early '70s. I distinctly recall seeing Roundheads and Cavaliers and Warriors of Mars in that pile...!

Anyway, yeah, ping him if you can and I'm sure he'll let you know if he knows.

 

[Mark CMG]

There are quite a few actually. 1e has yet to be outsold by any later edition outside of the basic boxed set. Some people think they are collectors items but they aren't. They are so common I wouldn't pay more than 5 bucks for one, 7 or 8 with shipping. Also considering that the binding of most 1e books was vastly superior to later editions, you can find them in decent shape with spines intact regularly. The only problem with 1e books is that paper stock they used. It gets dirty easy and yellows easily. That is the hard part of searching for 1e books, finding white, clean pages.

Well, I still have my own and it's fairly cean and non-yellow, for now.

 

[thedungeondelver]

Well, I still have my own and it's fairly cean and non-yellow, for now.

I don't really have this yellowing problem with mine. Maybe it's a product of the environment? I'm in a non-smoking household in a state with very little real variation in weather (I think the temperature average over a year in FL is 78'-80' F). hm.

 

[Mark CMG]

He pops in from time to time over there and posts corrections if someone's really laying the BS thick ("Only five DMGs were sold - EVER!", well that's a bit extreme but you see where I'm coming from.)

The first time I met Frank he was carrying a stack of TSR "digest-sized" games from the early '70s. I distinctly recall seeing Roundheads and Cavaliers and Warriors of Mars in that pile...!

Anyway, yeah, ping him if you can and I'm sure he'll let you know if he knows.

Looks like he is fairly ensconced on DF (where I might be if I still played earlier editions or C&C, perhaps) and it may be he won't be hanging around here. Does he post here under some other alias?

 

[thedungeondelver]

Looks like he is fairly ensconced on DF (where I might be if I still played earlier editions or C&C, perhaps) and it may be he won't be hanging around here. Does he post here under some other alias?

No idea.

Like I said he does have a userid at the Acaeum. And I'm sure your keyboard won't melt if you just post in his thread at DF.

 

[Transit]

I think Ebay ought to look into that stuff and see what is going on. I mean if I pay 10 bucks and he used flat rate, that doesn't bother me but when a seller charges more than an arm and a leg for shipping just to recoup his losses, it kind of ruins the point of Ebay for buyers. In my case the guy originally said "sure, I'll look into it" and came back and told me the USPS wouldn't let him ship that weight in books for flat rate... what a crock.

Yeah, I hate that. Lately I've been trying to fight back against these shipping charge scams.

Excessive shipping is actually against Ebay rules, and can be reported. Since Ebay auction fees are based on the selling price of the item, some sellers try to sell an item at a really low price, and then take a huge profit on shipping. Many auctions say "no reserve" but are really hiding a reserve price by charging twenty or thirty dollars for "handling."

The problem is that there's no way to filter out high shipping charges when searching for items. It's a waste of time to have to find and read the whole auction listing before discovering that the shipping and handling charges cost more than the item itself is worth.

So now when I see an auction with "ripoff level" shipping charges, I click the "report this item" link at the bottom of the auction page. There's a specific category for reporting excessive shipping charges.

It's quick, anonymous, and Ebay takes it seriously enough to warn the seller right away. (I reported a guy that was selling 99 cent DVDs with a thirty dollar "handling fee" hidden deep down in the auction text, and his auctions were cancelled the next day.)

Maybe if enough of these sneaky sellers get their auctions cancelled, we'll start to see more honest shipping and handling charges.