D&D 4E "Adult" Content in 4e Art

[Hussar]

If its pg-13, then its neither nudity nor gore. Really. 'PG-13' doesn't allow for either.

You can have nudity in PG-13. At least in Canada you can. Beowulf, for example, is PG-13. There's gore and nudity in there.

 

[Aloïsius]

You can have nudity in PG-13. At least in Canada you can. Beowulf, for example, is PG-13. There's gore and nudity in there.

Different countries have different perceptions. "The Chorus" was PG-13 in the USA...
And my town is full of greco-roman nude statues, it does not seems to trouble the children.

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

Well, the "Battle of the Mounds" sequence of Conan the Barbarian was class, as was the scatily but logically clad Valeria.

Folk are going around using Cleave with greataxes, Chain Lighntning (whcih will explode some of it's victims) and getting "splootered" by giants with 2hander wepaons...blood n' gore are unavoidable, lol!

"Splootered", well, when a frost giant barbarian 5, raging, crits you for 140 hp or so in one go....you do kind of go..."sploooooter!"

I adore Vallejo's work. His work on skin is unequalled and I think he's probably the world's greatest living painter for my tastes. Easley does much better "scenes" as in story telling with his art, but Vallejo's people are jaw-dropping. Clyde Caldwell's armour/weapons/gems are outstanding. Christos Achilleos is very crisp and bold.
Frazetta was moody but not detailed enough for my likes.

 

[Clavis]

I voted yes on Sex and Gore.

A far as I'm concerned, the "let's make it kid friendly" movement that started with 2nd edition is what almost destroyed D&D in the 90s.

Make D&D dangerous and disreputable again, and you'll see how the game's popularity will improve.

Art that doesn't piss anybody off is not worth looking at.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

That's right. 10-13 year old gamers are never interested in seeing that kind of thing. Hear hear.

You win the thread.

 

[SteveC]

Don't get too excited about the poll results. As of right now, 5 people have voted for "Yes, I like both nudity and gore like in Conan. I am a female gamer." I'm pretty certain that three of them are male.

The only thing that lies more than internet polls are politicians.

So ENWorld has men attempting to pass themselves off as women?

That's so MMORPG!



--Steve

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Since "moderate" and "appropriate" are both subjective, the poll question doesn't look to provide useful answers. (the choices are better.) "Appropriate" in particular seems to me to be skirting the "just playing my character" line of recursive excuses. The subject of an illustration is a choice in and of itself, so saying depictions are OK if they are appropriate to the scene just moves the decision point, it doesn't remove it.

Personally, I prefer a minimum of nudity and gore in my rpg illustrations.

 

[kennew142]

IMHO, the art can be *sexy* at times, but it should never be anything inadequate for a 12-year-old. Suggest, not show.

I'm with Claudio here. The fact is that a lot of gamers are drawn into the hobby in their early teen years. Sexy is good, very good. Crossing the line into porn is - not so good.

 

[Nifft]

I liked the gore and nudity in Conan, but those girls need to lose some weight.

Also: D&D isn't Conan, though it can be used to play Conan-style games, and that's cool.

I neither object to nor require gore or nudity in my D&D artwork. Just make it good: let WAR draw all the Outsiders, and Sam Wood draw all the Humanoids.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Crazy Jerome]

I have a teen reading gaming books. I'm interested in starting a game for him, his friend, and their younger sisters. So my preferences are totally selfish:

Nothing in the PHB that you can't give to the under 12 set (or even under 10 set), without any worries. The MM and DMG can push things a bit more. If I can get a couple of teenage boys interested in running a game, I can live with a few nipples poking through in a MM entry. I don't recall it scarring me all that much, at their age. I just don't want the hassle of dealing with an impromptu art/sexuality discussion in a group of teens and pre-teens brought on by something in the book. (Let me decide how far to push things, if at all, not the rules.)

For the rest of the supplements, just consider the audience, consider the source material, and consider the writer's intent--and then try to make tasteful and appropriate art choices based on all of those. We should get a wide range of material, and I can decide what I can hand to a teenager, what I keep to adults, and what I have no interest in whatsoever. Then maybe consider a bit of a warning, if the book pushes things, so that I can investigate it before my 7 year old start flipping through it? I don't think that's asking a whole lot.