Adult: GUCK Development Forum again

[Sorn]

Holy Cow!!! Here I am typing up my post about SF/HF integration, and there's 10 new posts when I am done.

Welcome back Vrayven...

Yes, you have absolutely earned the titles of "Core Person" and "Lead Contributors". That's aside from the "Dark Vixen" title you already had. As a matter of fact, while I consider myself one of the core people, I am certainly not too big on the contribution end, aside from constructive criticism. I guess my contribution will come when I piece everything together in a decent-looking package. So, kudos to you.

Anyway:

Soft vs Hard
I picture soft focus being worked up as an overly long sidebar. I don't think it will be the "stepchild". It will be the section used by people who are not running a sexually intensive game. I picture it being mostly flavor text and a few suggestions about how to integrate other hard focus mechanics in on the fly.

The integration is exactly what I was talking about in my last post. Do we have anything on this topic yet?

 

[Bastoche]

I could provide you with a lot of other examples, but I think the point becomes clear: both SF and HF rules need to be compatible enough to allow for seamless integration with the rest of the material. Having SF-only and HF-only will make things cumbersome, and the overall quality will suffer accordingly.

I don't mean to be a pest about this issue, but there has to be a way to mesh SF and HF to allow seamless integration. For your average Jack and Jill (no carnal arts, no kinks, no frets, a few ranks in Prowess), the current SF rules work fine. However, SF stops working all that well once you deal with adventurers with a slight sexual bent or NPC sex professionals who might even have a carnal art, even though they are lower-level.

Before I start rambling on, am I the only one who sees it this way? I am not saying that we should get rid of HF or switch the focus of the book. I simply want to give more options to the SF games out there. I think we all agree that the majority of people who d/l the GUCK will stick to SF games.

I agree. But from my point of view not much soft-focus thinkering has been done. We should get through the hard-focus first since it's the hardest part and then adapt the soft-focus to these rules at the edition. Sorta...

It's much easier to go from hard focus to soft focus than vice versa.

Edit: to answer Sorn's question: not really aside a table for soft-focus prowess check.

 

[Sorn]

I agree. But from my point of view not much soft-focus thinkering has been done. We should get through the hard-focus first since it's the hardest part and then adapt the soft-focus to these rules at the edition. Sorta...
It's much easier to go from hard focus to soft focus than vice versa.

Bastoche: I agree with you there... I just wanted to bring this up before it's too late...

 

[VVrayven]

SinbadBleu: No hard feelings.

As for the seduction rules, I will now start on my summary of the skills and the modifiers. We'll just see how long it gets. Feel free to add any input you may have. I've already seen a few of your ideas and taken note.

Sorn & Bashtoche (and DbS):

I think we can mess the Soft Focus integration of HF rules once they are all complete. Status conditions and the like function in either realm well, though aren't taken into account on the Grat Chart, but this is fine. I think once we have everything done, it might be easier to say put a guideline in the SF part say like "X grants an +Y if circumstances Z prevail." Catch my meaning.

And just to clarify. The rules are HF. Soft Focus is really just a quick resolution chart for a sexual encounter. Hard Focus is more a misnomer. Just because people plan on using SF doesn't preclude them from taking any of the core HF rules, feats, skills, ect... As for bonuses in the SF rules because of all the HF features, well we can make that happen once we have all the HF stuff together and finalized. Does that help?

Yes, you have absolutely earned the titles of "Core Person" and "Lead Contributors". That's aside from the "Dark Vixen" title you already had. As a matter of fact, while I consider myself one of the core people, I am certainly not too big on the contribution end, aside from constructive criticism. I guess my contribution will come when I piece everything together in a decent-looking package. So, kudos to you.

Thanks. <big smile> Kudos right back attcha!

 

[Bastoche]

Great! I think we all agree on the SF-HF thing! Carry on

 

[Sorn]

That's exactly what I was envisioning. In addition, I can easily see letting characters with Carnal Arts use a certain number of them during SF checks. The first ability seems to be to use the key attribute for the CA in addition to Cha... so that is something that can be easily carried over to SF.

 

[kolvar]

I think I have no part in this project anymore and wanted to ask someone else to take over the homepage of the guide.

 

[Sorn]

Kolvar, I hope you will reconsider. You have been the guiding force behind this project for a long time. It would be a shame to loose you now.

As for the site, I could do it, but I currently have no webhost for the project (and I am not going to any of the free hosts). Who is hosting the site and taking care of care of the domain name now?

 

[kolvar]

Zelda (remember her) got a friend, who works with some company or something like that. I would put you in contact with Zelda and hand you the id and password for the ftp (if I find them (g)).

 

[Sorn]

Since I'll be the file monkey anyway come layout time, I'll volunteer, unless there are any other takers.

I just went through my email archives, and I still have the account info. However, if you could check with Zelda and see whether we have this server for good or if this is going to expire anytime in the near future.