Adult: Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge

I've progressed in my class write-up. That's probably end up making 4 to 5 pages, maybe even 6 if pictures are inserted. I think that would fit in the Sexuality in your Campaign chapter, right after (or before) the races.

Edit: I want to add that I'll probably write rules for pregnancy then, and if I get the courage, rewrite the first example so that it uses the actual rules.
 
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Wotcher all,

I thought I’d come forward with a proposition, but Sorn appears to have pre-empted me on this one. Having vast quantities of time at my hands (the fact I constructed the DbS Conversion entirely by myself should be an ample demonstration), I would be happy to volunteer for some role in editing the final version; indeed, I would be happy to take on the complete role.

I’m unsure about the concept of simultaneous editing of different chapters by different orders. I feel a major drawback of the existing NUCK is the irregularities and discrepancies across the guide - this is one of the chief aims of editing, and dividing the roles is only going to complicate the process. I really want to see this project finish as something we can all be proud of, and to have it finish soon.
If everyone is happy with the idea, confident in my own capabilities and willing to trust me, I propose a full editing of the guide which draws on feedback from all of you, but to be executed by my own hand. The final copy, since I have recently acquired Acrobat, will be in .pdf format. In my opinion, the editing process will involve (in rough chronological order):

• An amalgamation of all existing material - I would need a complete file of all work already done. I would also like to see the d20 and DbS conversions merged to form a single and definitive guide, although this requires some work - see below.

• Refining content - the existing guide is somewhat vast, and we would need select which components will go through unscathed, which require changing, and which will be saved for possible supplements. I will need extensive feedback from the forums on the original, d20 and DbS editions of the guide, what people like about the mechanics, nature, style and humour of each. From this, new material can be drafted combining hybrid features; the best aspects involved will go through to form the final edition.

• Streamlining - altering spell and rules text to make the material clear, concise and in line with other sections along a similar vein. This can be acheived once content has been refined.

• Presentation - more mundane tasks such as checking spelling and grammar, designing text, table and illustration allocation for a better aesthetic, and so on. With this complete, the file will be finished!

I would ask that as much input as possible be posted on the boards - that way everyone is up-to-date with the progression of the guide, the way things are heading and anything of interest. To complement this, I will post updates, summaries, issues to be decided upon, announcements and draft copies as often as possible to help the wait pass. Besides, it gives us the prestige of having the topic at the top of the forum so often.

Reply as soon as possible with your thoughts and I can get this thing underway - if you don’t like the idea, tell me so; I don’t want to be working needlessly or against anyone’s wishes. If you’d like to run with Sorn’s idea instead, just say. Otherwise, I’ll probably start a new thread wherein the brainstorming and editing process will take place; likewise, any new ideas you come up with midway should be posted up there. A simple yay or nay will suffice for now - the debating itself can get under way when the new topic goes up aprroved.

Just doing my best...

Death By Surfeit
 

@Death By Surfeit:

Greetings,

By all means, if you want to tackle the immense task of gettting this masterpiece edited, go ahead. Everything you said made a lot of sense (at least to me). If you have the time and the patience, you'd probably be the perfect guy.

To my knowledge, all that is done as of now is the spell section. However, since a lot of spells are dependant on other rules (especially pregnancy), this probably won't help much. At least the most glaring typos should be outta there, as are some of the more dubious spells.

Other than that, things are still as they are, with frequent revisions on the boards.

I'd suggest you get into contact with Kolvar and see if you can get access to the site, where you could upload finished pieces as needed. Would be easier than posting huge amounts of text here on the boards. Just post the link and we can all check out the file itself.

One last note from me as the layout-monkey: Don't make the the finished version a pdf file. Word will do just fine. I'll copy everything into Quark and get things ready in there. Since Quark has issues with copying over formatting, don't even worry about making things look neat. Just let me know what the headlines are, and I'll take care of the rest. Once that is done, I'll create the pdf, complete with artwork.

Tally-Ho,
Sorn
 

The site is down at the moment, but I could send the file and the web-enhancement to you, DbS. or put them on another server.

I will be a fan of you, if you manage the editing all by yourself.

About vastness of the guide: I got no problem with the size (if we could get more articles/ essays, I would vote for even greater vastness), but you are right about the dugious stuff, that has to go. The edited spells (got that, too) should spare some time for you.
 

Excellent. I'm really glad I have the support of you two, and feel encouraged by your faith in my abilities. I'll open the first discussion thread very soon, and everyone can throw in their own opinions on the various topics.

Kolvar: I have the file and web enhancement most recently posted on the website - if that is the most up-to-date, then I'm sorted in that respect. I'm unsure I have all the edited spells tho'.

Sorn: If I haven't the layout to worry about, all the better. I'll write my own suggestions when it comes to that.

Cheers everyone,

Death By Surfeit
 

DbS, as far as your layout involvement goes, just keep everything in a single-column format, and just put any sidebars or textboxes in brackets (e.g. <sidebar on the left> ... </sidebar>).

Welcome aboard...

Oh, and before I forget... I for one am only monitoring this thread on these boards, so if you could post the link to your new threads here, that would be grand. I missed about 3 months worth of discussion at some point because I didn't realize that there was a new thread after the old one was full.
 

Originally posted by LostSoul
I still haven't worked out how I'm going to deal with psionics; I'l probably work up some oddly-flavoured skill & feat system (instead of using the power point in the Psi HB).

Uhm....no offense LostSoul, and I do understand what your position on Psionics is likely to be, there IS a perfectly serviceable psionics system in that book, and we are (last time I checked) trying to be as true to the published rules as possible. I know I haven't been active for awhile, but anything like what you're describing will just seem awkward and out of place. I strongly suggest that, for the "Guide" version of the Moon Maiden class, just use power points.

I figured that even with the changes I made to standard D&D rules, you could use this for your handbook.

I hope somebody gets some use or inspiration from it, but if not, it was a lot of fun to write up!

Maybe it's just my preference, but I think it's best to stick to what's already there, and NOT make up "wild and complicated" new systems for the guide. The MAJORITY will be using the published information largely as written, and would have to convert anything we write over that back to something that would be compatible with the books. After seeing a rewrite of the psionics system (and going way off-topic to do that) they would likely skip the entire class section after that, and all the psionic powers (which will be based on power-points.)

Was I just blathering on now? I'll shut up. <Gets the duct tape>
 

Lily Inverse said:
Uhm....no offense LostSoul, and I do understand what your position on Psionics is likely to be, there IS a perfectly serviceable psionics system in that book, and we are (last time I checked) trying to be as true to the published rules as possible.

That's cool. I didn't write the prestige class for the guide, but I thought I might as well post it because it might inspire somebody, somehow, someway. I figured the rules were going to be off, but I didn't feel much like changing things. ;)

So I'm cool if you don't want to include, or if you do, or if you want to totally change it, or whatever. I do hope that somebody got some kind of idea from reading it, though.
 

<Sheepish grin>

I meant that as much to point out to all the pepole who were raving about this that it didn't meet an "unwritten" requirement for inclusion as to tip you off. I'm sure if you just slap on a "Powers gained" table and a "Power Points per level" column we can make it look fairly reasonable. It's just one of those things that makes a good supplement.

"Know what your focus is, and borrow from other sources when you'd need to go outside of it."
 

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