[Adventure] Marna is Missing (DM: pacdidj, Judge: renau1g)

[Dekana]

[sblock=ooc]You just know things are getting tense when there are 10 posts of OOC in a row.

Can I ask how many successes we need to pass this round? If we need two more, both Alnar and Jezebel will have to make primary checks. If we only need one more, it makes more sense for Jezebel to aid another on Alnar. Her highest primary skill is +1, whereas Alnar's is +3 (Perception).[/sblock]

 

[pacdidj]

[sblock=ooc]One more success will pass this round. You'll have at least one more round of skill challenge after this depending on how you play it.[/sblock]

 

[Dekana]

[sblock=ooc]I don't understand how we have a +4 bonus from aid another. When you aid a skill check, you grant a bonus to the next roll of the same skill. But we have aid another bonuses from Dungeoneering and Perception - different skills. Shouldn't we have a +2 bonus to Dungeoneering and a +2 bonus to Perception rather than a combined bonus to both?[/sblock]

 

[Dekana]

[sblock=roll]Perception (aid another) (1d20+1=10)

I'm totally confused by this whole thing. Suffice it to say that I rolled a 10 for an aid another, and I'll bump that to a success with Dayna's Blessing. I rolled it for Perception, but if I can't use that as a secondary skill (Sir X610 already used it this round), then I guess I use Arcana instead - it's the same bonus.

So Luinnar gets another +2 to his next primary skill? That makes it +6 from aid another, +3 from skill bonus (if he uses perception), and +2 from dayna's blessing if he needs it. Auto-success!

Or I could misunderstand this entire thing.[/sblock]Jezebel slows her pace as she approaches the bridge. There is clearly a trap or some other hazard present, judging by her quarry's gesture. Could those moving shadows be some form of sorcerous magic? We are so close to the border between worlds, after all...

 

[Luinnar]

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I'm confused as well. What would be the safest check for Alnar to roll? I don't want to fail another roll.[/sblock]

 

[MetaVoid]

Luinnar: Safest would be your highest primary.

Dekana: Aid another may be anything for any skill as long as it's logical (i.e. allowed by DM). For example, you could use insight to 'read' a diplomat and unobtrusively let another character know what you know for his diplomacy check. I'd even let streetwise count on this one if there was time to prepare (get some rumors and or dirty secrets before meeting)

OOC: since when did I become expert? I'm playing for only 5 months!

 

[pacdidj]

[sblock="aid another clarification"]Okay, so here's the scoop. Dungeoneering and Thievery are the primary skills this round, and aid another on either of these skills can only be applied to that skill. The secondary skills, however can be used as aid another rolls to apply to either a secondary skill check to obtain a single success, or to a primary check.

So far, we've got +4 aid another in perception rolls which can be applied to perception, thievery, or dungeoneering checks. We've also got +2 in dungeoneering aid another that can only be applied to dungeoneering checks.

So, Alnar could either make a dungeoneering check at +6; or a perception, thievery, or arcana check at +4. Insight is no longer available, as MetaVoid has already used it for a single success. And, don't forget about the one-time +2 available through Dayna's blessing.

@ Dekana - perception is fine as an aid another, even though Sir Exsixten rolled it already. The secondary skills can be used only once to gain one success, but as much as you want as aid another rolls, keeping in mind that a single check can be affected a maximum of four times for up to +8 or -4 from aid another rolls.

Hope that makes more sense. Thanks for bearing with me here. I'm still learning some of this as I go![/sblock]

 

[Luinnar]

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Can Alnar use Dayna's blessing after he rolls, or do I have to declare it before I roll?

Also, aid another does not count as a failure correct?[/sblock]

 

[pacdidj]

[sblock=Luinnar]You can use Dayna's blessing after the check. Aid another does not count as failure in the challenge if you fail the roll, but the party needs another success to get past this round of the challenge, so Alnar needs to make an actual skill check. Options are Dungeoneering, Thievery, Perception, or Arcana to gain another success.[/sblock]

 

[samursus]

[sblock=ooc] I think I have finally got it ... apparently my reading comprehension is lacking. Luinnar, you should probably do an Arcana skill check with the +4 Aid Another and Dayna's Blessing if you need it...that should give you a +11 or +13(with DB), basically an auto-success. [/sblock]