Alarm and Minor Globe?

[Dracomeander]

The Protective Aura says "effects created by evil creatures." It's even arguable that it functions against all lower level spells, not just evil, but I'd personally restrict it to evil based on the first sentence (I'd think using just the second sentence removes it from the context of the paragraph).

So you're saying you would limit the magic nullifying to just "effects created by evil creatures."

Interesting interpretation. So a neutral wizard's alarm would detect the angel, but the evil necromancer's wouldn't.

In another thread recently, it was suggested that the angel would have to drop its protective aura to even use its own Cure (Light, Moderate, or Serious) Wounds ability upon itself or an ally.

I can't remember which thread. Perhaps someone else could help.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Yes, I would limit it to only evil creatures. But, like I said this is arguable.

Even if you allow it versus all creatures, the angel would still have full use of its own abilities. Lesser globe does not interfere with the caster of the lesser globe at all, and neither does spell resistance. There's no doubt about this part of it.

 

[Dracomeander]

Yes, I would limit it to only evil creatures. But, like I said this is arguable.

Even if you allow it versus all creatures, the angel would still have full use of its own abilities. Lesser globe does not interfere with the caster of the lesser globe at all, and neither does spell resistance. There's no doubt about this part of it.

I'm afraid you are wrong in that interpretation. The globe does interfere with the caster's own spells.

An immobile, faintly shimmering magical sphere surrounds you and excludes all spell effects of 3rd level or lower. The area or effect of any such spells does not include the area of the lesser globe of invulnerability. Such spells fail to affect any target located within the globe. Excluded effects include spell-like abilities and spells or spell-like effects from items. However, any type of spell can be cast through or out of the magical globe. Spells of 4th level and higher are not affected by the globe, nor are spells already in effect when the globe is cast. The globe can be brought down by a targeted dispel magic spell, but not by an area dispel magic. You can leave and return to the globe without penalty.

Emphasis is mine. According to this, any spell of 3rd level or less - while it could be cast - would not be able to be cast without some way of allowing the spell to target outside of the globe. Caster's own touch spells would be useless.

 

[Dracomeander]

Just found the answer to the interaction with the Alarm spell.

However, any type of spell can be cast through or out of the magical globe. Spells of 4th level and higher are not affected by the globe, nor are spells already in effect when the globe is cast.

So the Alarm spell, being already in place will be triggered by the Angel. The protective aura will not effect it.

 

[Infiniti2000]

I'm afraid you are wrong in that interpretation. The globe does interfere with the caster's own spells.
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Emphasis is mine. According to this, any spell of 3rd level or less - while it could be cast - would not be able to be cast without some way of allowing the spell to target outside of the globe. Caster's own touch spells would be useless.

Read this line again, "However, any type of spell can be cast through or out of the magical globe." So, you are arguing that the angel could cure someone outside the globe while inside it, yet not cure himself, right? By the word choice of "through" would you also say that a lightning bolt will pass through the globe, not affecting anyone inside it, but affecting everyone before and after?

So the Alarm spell, being already in place will be triggered by the Angel. The protective aura will not effect it.

Well, the protective aura has been in place since the Angle was born. Are you so sure the alarm spell occurred first? No, I think the interpretation on that quote is that a bane spell (for example) continues to function.

 

[Dracomeander]

By the word choice of "through" would you also say that a lightning bolt will pass through the globe, not affecting anyone inside it, but affecting everyone before and after?

That is exactly what the spell description in the SRD says.

The area or effect of any such spells does not include the area of the lesser globe of invulnerability. Such spells fail to affect any target located within the globe.

The lightning bolt either stops at the globe or passes through without effecting anything within the globe then continues effecting things pat the globe to the extent of its range. Another example. A fireball set to detonate inside the radius of the globe completely fizzles. The same fireball set to detonate just outside the globe fries everything within its radius that is also outside the globe doing nothing to those within the globe.

Well, the protective aura has been in place since the Angle was born. Are you so sure the alarm spell occurred first?

As far as this goes, the Angel more than likely is older than the Alarm spell, but the Alarm spell was put in place before the Protective Aura was brought into the location so the Alarm would count as a pre-existing spell.