Alien Vs. Predator - still surprisingly cool

[Wolf72]

I've never gotten the Resurrection hate. It's my second favourite. Definately. After Aliens.

It just felt like a natural evolution of the series, for me.

Ressurection didn't bother me either ... half-breed alien monster was kinda silly, but I like the rest.

then again, when it comes to sci-fi stuff I really really good at suspending my logical side and just enjoying a movie.

 

[barsoomcore]

[sigh] Who doesn't miss the era of blaxploitation flicks? The recent Shaft remake was a nice bit o' nostalgia.

Just picked up a copy of Foxy Brown -- it wasn't GREAT, but it was pretty good. A little surprised at Pam Grier's rather unimpressive acting. I was expecting a little more oomph from her.

She's so spectacularly beautiful, though, I didn't really mind all that much...

 

[Desdichado]

Ah, yes. Pam Grier. How can you not like someone who's been in movies with names like Scream, Blackula Scream? Or how's about Sheba, Baby?

 

[Kai Lord]

You and me both, brother. We can scrap over the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake, if you're feeling nostalgic.

Heh, only if you're in love with it now, because my initial enthusiasm for the film was apparently based entirely on the fact that we showed up 15 minutes late to see it in the theater. I rented the DVD and the first 15 minutes were so stupid it literally tainted the rest of the movie and I actually ended up just turning it off less than halfway through. Go figure.

And randomly enough we're of the same mind on Alien: Resurrection as well. It was so utterly awful that when I got home from the theater I stuck in the Empire Strikes Back laserdisc just to cleanse myself cinematically. And I'm actually not kidding.

 

[barsoomcore]

My initial enthusiasm for the film was apparently based entirely on the fact that we showed up 15 minutes late to see it in the theater.

See, we got about 15 minutes in and we were done. So there you go.

I'm sure another opportunity to poke each other in the eye will come along sooner or later.

 

[Warrior Poet]

Spoilers below, incidentally.

Haven't seen AVP.

I really liked Alien3 a great deal. I though it was a nice counterpart to the action and just general all-around bad-assedness of Aliens, which is the best action movie I've ever seen.

I liked much of what they had to work with in Alien3: a junk prison planet, no weapons, a disgraced doctor, beaurocracy, remoteness, the parallel of Ripley as the alien among the "familiarity" of the prisoners vis-a-vis the alien as the, uh, alien among the "familiarity" of the humans. I think they did a pretty bold thing, and that's

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kill Newt

, which seems to go against the Hollywood grain, and accentuates Ripley's pain even more in a Stephen R. Donaldson sort of way (what ELSE could possibly happen to this poor woman, who happens to kick a lot of butt, etc.). I liked the idea of the bug breeding

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in the dog

, to showcase some adaptiblity of the monster. I liked the appearance of Bishop again . . .

I was very hopeful about Alien: Resurrection. I thought it was a fun, good movie, right up to the part where Ripley sinks through the floor.

Then I just wanted it to be over, and my $8 to magically reappear in my wallet.

It had so much great potential: the moral problem of the smugglers, the conflict of outlaws working for the law representatives, the double-crossing, the advancing science, a really cool smuggler ship that had a kind of organic feel to it, little cubes that turn into whisky when you zap them with a laser beam.

And I really liked Ripley as

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hybrid

. I just thought that was spectacular, particularly how she escaped from her cell, and the way her eyes looked in the mirror, and a whole bunch of stuff. Very, very cool (it helps to have a crush on Sigourney Weaver). Not to mention

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her confrontation with the failed clones, which I felt was very, very powerful

. There was much potential there.

Then she fell through the floor. After that, it was crap, and that's too bad. I just didn't buy that the

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alien baby would think of Ripley as mom, instead of the big mama alien, and then when it gave the puppy dog eyes, I know I was supposed to feel sympathy, but all I could feel was "This is dumb."

Plus the effects seemed shoddy. Maybe they ran out of budget?

Thanks for listening,

Warrior Poet

 

[Hypersmurf]

Then she fell through the floor. After that, it was crap.

Amen.

-Hyp.

 

[Joker[ZW]]

I liked the idea of the bug breeding

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in the dog

, to showcase some adaptiblity of the monster.

In the Director's Cut, it breeds

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in a bull

.

 

[KenM]

Rumor is the director of AvP was very PO'ed at the studio for giving it a PG 13 rating. I saw an interview with him awhile back where he said he intendended it to be an R rating and there was about a half hour of footage cut from what he gave the studio. The studio cut it.
He also expressed intrest in putting out a directors cut with the added stuff put back in. I'm glad I did not pick this version up, i'll wait for the DC.

 

[Wolfix]

I believe there was a Batman vs. Predator graphic novel. That's actually a halfway decent concept, I believe. Although I don't honestly believe anyone could pull that off as a movie without it suxx0ring major ass.

It's funny, there is a short film (bout 8 minutes length) called Batman: Dead End which one could also call Batman vs Alien vs Predator. Kinda weird, but it was pretty cool.
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374526/)