Alignment/Multiclassing/DM Screen/Power Source From I-Con

[FabioMilitoPagliara]

the big 8 power sources

Martial
Arcane
Divine
Shadow
Primal
Psionic

are sure, and we are at 6 out of 8

ki? it seems divided between martial and psionic (I think the monk would fit perfectly into the psionic book specially if they call Psionic the Mind power source - much more fantasy to me, a Mind Mage is much better than a Psionic in a fantasy setting)

since most of the power sources come from the planar structure
Martial (the World, body/mind)
Arcane (the Feywild)
Divine (the astral dominions)
Shadow (the Shadowfell)
Primal (the Elemental Chaos
Psionic (the Inner World)

we have 2 obvious power sources out of this 6

Aberration magic (the Far Realm - mutation of self, madness and corruption)
Summoning magic (the Abyss - bound demons and the like)

 

[Baumi]

I don't believe that new classes are only in the PHP ... the Forgotten Realms book has already one confirmed. Also only two divine and three arcane (including FR) classes would be too few choices (what about Bard and Specialists?).

 

[Campbell]

I'm not certain that we will see an artificer class for 4e. The artificer class was largely created to circumvent certain issues with 3e's item creation system and to allow for NPC craftsmen who were not magicians. With ritual based magic item creation the class may no longer have a niche to fill in 4e (especially if the ability to perform rituals is based on being trained in Arcana).

 

[Campbell]

I don't believe that new classes are only in the PHP ... the Forgotten Realms book has already one confirmed. Also only two divine and three arcane (including FR) classes would be too few choices (what about Bard and Specialists?).

In the D&D experience product discussion they mentioned that the PHB2 will feature further Arcane and Divine classes in order to "finish" those power sources. I wouldn't be entirely too surprised to see the Swordmage make a second appearance in that volume.

Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kt3W_u9xmPA

 

[Michael_Wolf]

I'm not certain that we will see an artificer class for 4e. The artificer class was largely created to circumvent certain issues with 3e's item creation system and to allow for NPC craftsmen who were not magicians. With ritual based magic item creation the class may no longer have a niche to fill in 4e (especially if the ability to perform rituals is based on being trained in Arcana).

Although I agree that the artificer class was partly created to circumvent issues with the 3e item creation system I don't think that they'll cut the artificer class from 4e. Artificers play a major role in Eberron. Especially the artificer infusions have quite a different feel than wizard spells and I really would like to see an artificer class in 4E. I've read and enjoyed Keith Baker's Eberron novels and I would hate to see Lei d'Cannith to be retconned into a wizard...

 

[FabioMilitoPagliara]

Although I agree that the artificer class was partly created to circumvent issues with the 3e item creation system I don't think that they'll cut the artificer class from 4e. Artificers play a major role in Eberron. Especially the artificer infusions have quite a different feel than wizard spells and I really would like to see an artificer class in 4E. I've read and enjoyed Keith Baker's Eberron novels and I would hate to see Lei d'Cannith to be retconned into a wizard...

well... in its blog Keith Baker said that he prefer using the 4th edition for eberron becaus, among other things, rituals fit much better to the feel of eberron, probably with rituals you can make "Arcane Crafter" w/out giving them class levels

 

[Michael_Wolf]

well... in its blog Keith Baker said that he prefer using the 4th edition for eberron becaus, among other things, rituals fit much better to the feel of eberron, probably with rituals you can make "Arcane Crafter" w/out giving them class levels

When I am not mistaken he was talking about the magewright class and NOT about the Artificer. Creating items is only part of the equation. The artificer infusions are what makes the class special IMHO.

 

[small pumpkin man]

well... in its blog Keith Baker said that he prefer using the 4th edition for eberron becaus, among other things, rituals fit much better to the feel of eberron, probably with rituals you can make "Arcane Crafter" w/out giving them class levels

He was talking about lamplighters and the magical economy, ie Magewrights, more than Artificers.

 

[Cirex]

Has anyone figured out what the likely 8th source is going to be?

The most probable guess that I can come if with is as follows

Martial
Arcane
Divine
Psionic
Primal
Shadow
Ki
???????

Chuck Norris.
Ah, two years ago it would have been mildly funny.

I'm very curious about the multi-classing. I remember reading that they were going to encourage multi-classing, compared to 3e at least. I was thinking about adding some gestalt factors (Unearthed Arcana) mixed with substitution levels...but that doesn't fit the "simple rules" path 4e has taken (which I welcome).

 

[Firevalkyrie]

Has anyone figured out what the likely 8th source is going to be?

The most probable guess that I can come if with is as follows

Martial
Arcane
Divine
Psionic
Primal
Shadow
Ki
???????

Please dear God no Ki as a power source. I'm sorry, but I like martial arts movies as much as the next person, but to my eye, there is nothing Ki can do that could and should not be subsumed under either the Martial (flashy combat maneuvers) or Arcane (throwing blue fireballs) power sources. And we already know there are going to be tough and physical Arcane characters - see the Swordmage.