Alignment Question - Can a monk not be lawful? Can a barbarian be lawful?

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With the "grey" area of alignments in Eberron, is it feasible for a monk to be a non-lawful character and still be a monk?

Also, is it possible for a barbarian to be lawful?
 

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Nope, only cleric alignment restrictions are lifted. Barbarians, bards, druids, monks and paladins still suffer normal alignment restrictions.
 


A barbarian can be lawful, but he loses his Rage ability.

A bard can be lawful, but cannot advance levels as a bard until he is nonlawful.

A monk can be nonlawful, but cannot advance levels as a monk until he is lawful.

A cleric's alignment must be within one step of their deity. If they do not have a deity they must remain the same alignment in order to retain their powers.
 

Old Gumphrey said:
A cleric's alignment must be within one step of their deity. If they do not have a deity they must remain the same alignment in order to retain their powers.

Except we're talking about Eberron, where that isn't the case.
 

jakal said:
Except we're talking about Eberron, where that isn't the case.

What, in Eberron, there can be a cleric of a Chaotic Good god who's Lawful Evil, and is under the false impression he's doing his god's bidding?

As a cynic, I like that idea a lot.

I'm starting to like Eberron more and more.
 

In Eberron, sure barbarians can be lawful. Monks can be chaotic. Paladins can be chaotic evil. It's your game, and if the GM and players can convince themselves that alignment restrictions are just as unnecessary for those classes as they are for clerics, you're home free.
 

RangerWickett said:
In Eberron, sure barbarians can be lawful. Monks can be chaotic. Paladins can be chaotic evil. It's your game, and if the GM and players can convince themselves that alignment restrictions are just as unnecessary for those classes as they are for clerics, you're home free.

Is it possible?
Sure, ask the GM.
Although I'd be more free with lifting the monk restriction than the barbarian one. Or, at least, I'd feel more comfortable with lessening the monk restriction to no chaotic and keeping the no lawful restriction on barb's. Which encourages allowing the grey without starting to allow previously denied extremes. Makes more sense to me anyhow.
 

reveal said:
With the "grey" area of alignments in Eberron, is it feasible for a monk to be a non-lawful character and still be a monk?

Also, is it possible for a barbarian to be lawful?


Yep.

Heck, even in 3.5 it's all possible, assuming the DM allows it. I'd go for non-lawful monks and for the lawful Barb, I don't know that I'd allow a Barb to start out as lawful, but they could definately work their alignment up to lawful based on actions and deeds.
 

ARandomGod said:
Is it possible?
Sure, ask the GM.
Although I'd be more free with lifting the monk restriction than the barbarian one. Or, at least, I'd feel more comfortable with lessening the monk restriction to no chaotic and keeping the no lawful restriction on barb's. Which encourages allowing the grey without starting to allow previously denied extremes. Makes more sense to me anyhow.
How about this.

Lawful Barbarian:
The Lawful Barbarian, unlike his chaotic cousin, is not a ravaging beast who gives into his deepest emotions to power his rage. Instead of giving in to their emotions they focus them like a sharp blade. The Lawful rage draws its power from the increased focus and pressure a barbarian puts on his mind. He releases the energy in short bursts when needed.
 

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