D&D General All Dead Generations: "Classic Vs. The Aesthetic"

[pemerton]

By providing a stable, reliable, and (over-)abundant source of food and resources, the move from hunter-gatherer to agriculture paved the way for civilization as we know it by providing time and resources for people to do things beyond the bare necessities to survive.

The last time I read the literature, hunter-gatherers have a relatively high proportion of leisure time.

which hunter-gatherer society invented the aqueduct? Or paved roads? Or metalsmithing beyond the absolute most basic? None of these existed before agriculture allowed them to exist, and all allowed those societies to prosper where others didn't.

And who invented hunting? Gathering? Child-rearing? Art? Religion?

It seems rather banal to point out that different technologies are feature of different forms of social organisation. I don't see what it is supposed to tell us, eg, about the "inferiority" of Orcs, or of (some) humans.

agrarian societies are, over time, going to develop beyond what hunter-gatherer societies can manage; and unless the h-g's have a counter (in the case of Orcs, this counter would be sheer numbers and aggression) the h-g's are eventually doomed.

This is nonsense. The idea that hunger-gatherers are "doomed" is nothing but genocidal fantasy.

 

[Cadence]

This is nonsense. The idea that hunger-gatherers are "doomed" is nothing but genocidal fantasy.

if it works anything like the real world, arr they either "doomed" to not end up developing massive pollution spilling, disease concentrating, environment destroying massive farm needing cities, or doomed to eventually be done in by the whims of the city makers?

 

[Umbran]

Mod Note:

Reading through the thread it really seems like the lines are drawn up in the same basic ways at they are in any other thread here that touches on racism. Same people, same arguments, sometimes dressed up a little differently. But no fundamentally new information or logic is being applied.

So, we know where this is going. And it isn't constructive. So, let us call it done.