Anakin's path to darkness too steep! (SPOILERS)

[TwistedBishop]

It is deeds though, isn't it? No Sith ever got really angry and adopted a kitten.

Palpatine cackled with glee a lot during RotS, especially during his Yoda fight.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Palpatine cackled with glee a lot during RotS, especially during his Yoda fight.

Of course, a Sith uses his passion to power his force abilities... Palpatine either laughed or was mad before he used any force power in all the movies.

It is deeds though, isn't it? No Sith ever got really angry and adopted a kitten.

Nor did a Jedi adopt a kitten in the movies...

 

[Vocenoctum]

Nor did a Jedi adopt a kitten in the movies...

But we can suppose that they did, given that most of this thread is supposition. Guessing Anakin's motive's is all fine and dandy, but they're not there. So, while it's a given, I think it bears mentioning, this is all opinion.

For all we know, Vader went and killed the kids while being force persuaded by Palp. Or perhaps he was always psychotic and he stopped taking his medication.
Maybe it was the fact Padme just wouldn't shut up! I mean, all her nagging and crying would drive a man to murder alone!

Or maybe the Dark Side is not something a person follows. Maybe the Force is Life, and once you give in to the Dark Side, an alien moves into your body, and you're now Evil.

Regardless though, in the movie, the motivation of Vader killing the children is because "now he's evil." Nothing more is given.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Regardless though, in the movie, the motivation of Vader killing the children is because "now he's evil." Nothing more is given.

Of course mean in your opinion on that. Thanks, cause I know my differs greatly from yours.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Of course mean in your opinion on that. Thanks, cause I know my differs greatly from yours.

Do you mean more is given? If there's something more concrete then I may have missed it, but I don't believe so. Everything posted is trying to reconcile why he did something. In reality, Palp said to clear the temple and he went and did it. I don't recall any return comment or justification offered by Vader?

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Do you mean more is given?

Yes I do. In summery and paraphrases as I can’t quote it line for line, Palpatine said that the Council did not trust Anakin, that they didn't tell him of theirs plan to kill Palpatine and take over the senate. That the Jedi need were stubborn that they wouldn’t be left alone unless they were all killed.

Rather it was the truth, and in with any good lie there is some truth, or an outright lie doesn’t really matter nor was it, as you suggested:

Regardless though, in the movie, the motivation of Vader killing the children is because "now he's evil." Nothing more is given.

Vader was ending the war, which he hated, was one step closer to saving his wife, which he wanted more than anything else, and protecting the government, which he believed in.

 

[mojo1701]

It just wouldn't make sense for "Anger" to *be* the dark side, or else every ten year old in history would be a sith lord.

There's a difference between anger and a tantrum.

 

[Psychic Warrior]

It would help if you didn't leave out a number of steps there. Like, his murder of the sand people, his belief that the Jedi are purposefully excluding him from all kinds of things, his convincing that the Jedi are traitors, his constant non-help from exactly those who should have helped him understand what to do, like Yoda or Mace Windu.

He's not just "troubled" and "confused" and if that's all you got out of the movies, you really need to watch all of the prequels again, and wake up this time when they're doing something else besides fighting.

Bingo! Exactly what I thought when a friend of mine made similar arguements as the original poster of this thread.

Anakin's turn to the dark side was very well handled - if you actually count what happened in the last movie as well. When he strikes down Mace Windu that is the last, final act that pushed him over the edge. To him there is no other recourse but to follow the Sith Lord - the Jedi will kill him for his actions (at least in his mind).

I was quite pleasently surprised at how well Anakin's fall was done. Of course it takes a lot longer for him to fall than it did for him to be 'redeemed' in RotJ.

 

[takyris]

Ironically, the sand-people scene was one of the worst and shoddiest parts of AotC for me, which might explain why I didn't factor it in, and why the fall in RotS was so disappointing for me after the good lead-up (watching Palpatine say all the right things while the Jedi say all the wrong things).

Regardless, if a movie requires a massive online defense by its fans to explain why important plot points did not suck as much as the casual observer thought, that probably says something about the movie's direction and script.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

Regardless, if a movie requires a massive online defense by its fans to explain why important plot points did not suck as much as the casual observer thought, that probably says something about the movie's direction and script.

Actually, I have yet to meet a casual observer who has complaints (beyond the Portman-Christiansen dynamic). By posting about this on a geek messageboard, you have officially lost your casual status, Taky.

Essentially, we have two groups of fans here. One that requires explanation, and one that is happy to fill in the gaps. Oh, and the third, that just had a good time and isn't too worried about the gaps, but they're notoriously quiet on the boards.