Debate fuels my Fire
I imagine dwarf or even orc angels would look a bit like Stormcasts. Giant armored suits of armor, here to bash your heads.
No, it's meant to be labeled 5e (though D&D General might have been a better tag). I've never played 4e. I just like the idea that celestials can serve more deities than just the typical Good gods (in my world, they can also serve the Neutral gods, and very, very rarely the evil gods, but that's typically for fallen angels).Was this supposed to be tagged 4e rather than 5e?
I bring it up because while in 4e angels served all deities, in 5e angels are LG and only serve LG, NG, or CG deities. Prior to 4e angels also only served good deities, and could themselves be any good alignment.
Just in case any new players are reading this and getting as confused as I was
My Raven Queen is . . . different, yes. She's Lawful Neutral and is my world's sole Goddess of Death and the Afterlife, and Vecna is trying to overthrow her and absorb her portfolios (because then he could feed even more souls to his phylactery and become the most powerful god in my world). The Raven Queen created these Necrotic Shadar-Kai Angels because of this conflict between her and Vecna, and they're her generals and messengers in the war. That's why they're good at killing undead, because that's quite literally what they were made for.(or maybe you have a really unique take on a CG Raven Queen...)
I suggest checking out the Celestials of 2e such as in the Monstrous Compendium Outer Planes Appendix and the planescape compendiums.This is quite a simple concept, but one that D&D doesn't seem to do that often (from what I've seen).
remove the name asura as that is more or less like call them titans which does not really work, but I like this idea what theme are we going for her visually and thematically?I suggest combining Asuras and Lillends into a new race with multiple types of CG Celestial. Add in Erotes maybe.
Guardinals can vary between looking more humanlike or more animal like depending on which plane they're closer to. Generally those in the Beastlands will be more animal-like.
and this is why I want them to be the dg races solves all this and makes a nice symmetry to the planes with Abrahamic as lg and le with more dnd as cg and ce.Guardinals can vary between looking more humanlike or more animal like depending on which plane they're closer to. Generally those in the Beastlands will be more animal-like.
The way I see it an Equinal (a Horse Guardinal) can look like Sarah Jessica Parker (a human who looks the closest to a Horse to me) or can look like Bojack Horseman. And that may be the difference of being based in Bytopia or the Beastlands.
remove the name asura as that is more or less like call them titans which does not really work, but I like this idea what theme are we going for her visually and thematically?
that would be cool but what are the themes of the celestial type? if it is cg?
we need more than love but emotion might work?Yeah Chaotic Good Celestials linked to various forms of love, like you could have an Erote type that is about the love of Music (Lillends), you could have an Erote time for Romantic Love (Cupids), Erotes for Love of Sex (Hedons), Erotes the Love of the Gods (Peity), Love of Battle (traditional Asuras, maybe renamed or not or Valkyries).
This is quite a simple concept, but one that D&D doesn't seem to do that often (from what I've seen).
Angels should have a variety of different appearances. They shouldn't just look like muscular humans with wings, in my opinion (or green-skinned muscular humanoids in the case of the Planetar). There should be angels that look like different races, maybe dependent on which god they serve.
For example, in my homebrew world, the Raven Queen has promoted some of her most devout Shadar-Kai to become Angels. They grow black raven wings (duh), become celestials, and get a version of the Angelic Weapons feature that does necrotic damage (specified to ignore the necrotic resistances/immunities of undead).
Also, my world's goblinoids worship magic, and the founders of their religion managed to transform themselves into angels using their arcane-divine power (like a mixture of True Polymorph and Tasha's Otherworldly Guise). The Hobgoblin became the equivalent of a Planetar (with arcane-blue wings), but with wizard spells, the Bugbear became the equivalent of a Solar (with leaf-green wings), but with druid spells, and the Goblin became the equivalent of a Deva (with golden-yellow wings), but as a Divine Soul Sorcerer.
It's just a simple change, and it could be applied to a lot of different types of celestials. Gruumsh could turn his most devout followers into Orc-looking evil Archons that rode Flying Aurochs (Winged Bull stats). Imagine Moradin-serving Dwarven Angels that wear heavy armor, wield Mauls/Warhammers and have metallic wings! Gold-feathered Aarakocra that serve the Gods of the Sun and Air, Kobolds that serve Tiamat becoming Abishai when they die, Pegasi-Centaurs that serve the Gods of Nature, Couatl-serving Yuan-Ti with rainbow-wings, and so on!
Any thoughts? Have you done anything like this in your world/campaigns?