Hypersmurf
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DevoutlyApathetic said:
The original casting time of Summon Nature's Ally cast spontaneously is one full round. It's not longer than one full round.
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Animal Companions at higher Level
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The original casting time of Summon Nature's Ally cast spontaneously is one full round. It's not longer than one full round.
-Hyp.
pbd
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A couple questions/update about the druid that this post started on; definately not worth a new thread.
Anyhoo, so I'am thinking abut multiclassing the druid at this point. Probobly going to "dismiss" the animal companion, when I can get it home; I figure a druid wouldn't want to keep it around if it was just going to keep getting killed. My main choices are ranger or monk (gosh wouldn't warshaper or natures warrior be nice? too bad I can't convince the DM to let in ANY non-core PrCs or feats).
So monk isn't unreasonable since we had a monk in the group and the druid actually asked him for combat training when they rested and it fits with the character concept and alignment (we play with no set alignment, but the druid is generally pretty LN). It would give WIS to AC (big boost), improved grapple, good saves, increased spead (I like this), and the other monk goodies. The unarmed strike THEN natural attacks in one round stuff I think may be a bit cheesy so I probably won't do that, but I would use the unarmed strike in human form melee. This kind of goes with the idea of maximizing unarmed combat potential for the character.
Ranger is also reasonable for the charcter (he is a tracker). This would give good BAB, fort and ref saves, and th other ranger goodies. One minor thing, since the character already has tracking feat, I would ask the DM to let him get swift tracking or a bonus feat instead. The larger problem is that the character doesn't fight with weapons or bows; I am wondering if substituing a multiattack-type combat style would be unreasonable. I not this may become the better route.
Both ranger and monk offer good skill selection and points.
So any comments on second class recommendations (I don't like fighter due to the bad ref save) and poor skill selection. Aslo, comments/ideas on the multiattack combat style would be cool; this may actually help me convince the DM that its not unreasonable.
Much thanks,
pbd
Anyhoo, so I'am thinking abut multiclassing the druid at this point. Probobly going to "dismiss" the animal companion, when I can get it home; I figure a druid wouldn't want to keep it around if it was just going to keep getting killed. My main choices are ranger or monk (gosh wouldn't warshaper or natures warrior be nice? too bad I can't convince the DM to let in ANY non-core PrCs or feats).
So monk isn't unreasonable since we had a monk in the group and the druid actually asked him for combat training when they rested and it fits with the character concept and alignment (we play with no set alignment, but the druid is generally pretty LN). It would give WIS to AC (big boost), improved grapple, good saves, increased spead (I like this), and the other monk goodies. The unarmed strike THEN natural attacks in one round stuff I think may be a bit cheesy so I probably won't do that, but I would use the unarmed strike in human form melee. This kind of goes with the idea of maximizing unarmed combat potential for the character.
Ranger is also reasonable for the charcter (he is a tracker). This would give good BAB, fort and ref saves, and th other ranger goodies. One minor thing, since the character already has tracking feat, I would ask the DM to let him get swift tracking or a bonus feat instead. The larger problem is that the character doesn't fight with weapons or bows; I am wondering if substituing a multiattack-type combat style would be unreasonable. I not this may become the better route.
Both ranger and monk offer good skill selection and points.
So any comments on second class recommendations (I don't like fighter due to the bad ref save) and poor skill selection. Aslo, comments/ideas on the multiattack combat style would be cool; this may actually help me convince the DM that its not unreasonable.
Much thanks,
pbd
DevoutlyApathetic
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Hypersmurf said:
So you can't apply rapid spell to a spontaneous SNA at all.
Endur
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pbd said:
I recommend sticking with Druid. A pure Druid is far more effective than a Druid/X multi-class.
I think the animal companion is fine and does not need to be dismissed. Just don't use the animal companion as a fighter, use the animal companion as a helper for the Druid. Also, I think you should focus on picking an animal from the original list, not the advanced list (i.e. take a riding dog or a heavy horse for your animal companion).
Its ok if your party only has one front-line combatant (the fighter). There are many D&D parties with only one frontline person.
Start using your Druid to lay down the smack down from a distance (Flame Strike, Call Lightning, other spells). And your animal companion can operate as a bodyguard to keep enemy minions off of you.
A high level Druid is one of the most powerful spellcasters imaginable.
it sounds like you + your animal companion are 'very' strong.
In order to make the tiger not die as much I have a few questions/suggestions:
1) what have you been putting the extra stat points in? I didnt see them mentioned but I might have missed them. At this point he would have a decent amount.
2) getting the tiger a cloak of displacement would likely fix a large portion of the problem. Several books have noted that items made for animals only get the 30% discount, so if your guy gets a cloak of displacement with +5 resistance bonus to saves that is only 70k I believe. Also, a belt of magnificence (minis handbook) would work wonders for him. Sure, you likely cant afford the big one, but small boosts to all of the ability scores will work nicely.
Even if none of this works maybe you could take leadership, awaken your buddy, and start him down the road of some class (maybe monk and/or ranger). Then pick up a different animal companion that is for non-combat situations.
In order to make the tiger not die as much I have a few questions/suggestions:
1) what have you been putting the extra stat points in? I didnt see them mentioned but I might have missed them. At this point he would have a decent amount.
2) getting the tiger a cloak of displacement would likely fix a large portion of the problem. Several books have noted that items made for animals only get the 30% discount, so if your guy gets a cloak of displacement with +5 resistance bonus to saves that is only 70k I believe. Also, a belt of magnificence (minis handbook) would work wonders for him. Sure, you likely cant afford the big one, but small boosts to all of the ability scores will work nicely.
Even if none of this works maybe you could take leadership, awaken your buddy, and start him down the road of some class (maybe monk and/or ranger). Then pick up a different animal companion that is for non-combat situations.
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