D&D (2024) Another D&D 2024 Monster Preview: The Kuo-Toa!

Another look at the new monster stat blocks.

Following the ancient green dragon preview, here's a look at another iconic D&D monster from the 2025 Monster Manual!

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Chaosmancer

Legend
Would have preferred it being more explicit that the Kua-toa are making gods, not just bizarre paranoid conspiracy monsters who might have made up grievances. Read some Eberron lore for them which made them pop as a race to my mind's eye in a way they never had before by leaning into that reality altering ability.

Still, nice statblock.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend, he/him
Would have preferred it being more explicit that the Kua-toa are making gods, not just bizarre paranoid conspiracy monsters who might have made up grievances. Read some Eberron lore for them which made them pop as a race to my mind's eye in a way they never had before by leaning into that reality altering ability.

Still, nice statblock.
I mean, the paranoid conspiracy monstere angle works either way: maybe they are right?
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend, he/him
True, I guess I just like my monster lore books to be more definitive on "yes, they are right". But I fully understand why they don't in light of the multiverse.
2014 definitely seems to have leaned more towards defined Trvth for each Monster type, which frankly became a ticking time bomb for WotC with stuff like Orcs. Leaving more of a range of possibilities is probably wiser from that angle.
 

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
True, I guess I just like my monster lore books to be more definitive on "yes, they are right". But I fully understand why they don't in light of the multiverse.
I suspect they are intentionally unclear to avoid potentially offending someone with a specific opinion into not paying them, just like every other time they sit on the fence.
 


Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Supporter
I suspect they are intentionally unclear to avoid potentially offending someone with a specific opinion into not paying them, just like every other time they sit on the fence.
Mod Note:

Again with the dog whistles? Take a vacation. Consider whether you want to continue posting here while you’re away.
 


2014 definitely seems to have leaned more towards defined Trvth for each Monster type, which frankly became a ticking time bomb for WotC with stuff like Orcs. Leaving more of a range of possibilities is probably wiser from that angle.
IMO gnolls where a bigger foul-up.

I'm a great believer in the Babel Fish argument when it comes to religion in D&D. Uncertainty is essential to religion. Without uncertainty there is no faith, and with no faith it's just a hierarchical dictatorship with a very powerful but perfectly understandable being at the top.

Keith Baker is clearly a great believer in the power of creative uncertainty when it comes to world building.
 

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