Another Immortals Handbook thread

[BSF]

Hey UK!

So it looks like you will be doing Apotheosis next? Any idea on a time frame? Yeah I know you aren't good at hitting those. But that book would be golden to me right now. At some point I am going to need to decide if I am going to wait for it or just start winging it as best as I can.

 

[Verequus]

So the neutronium golem collapses into a sphere if it's in an antimagic field?

No - out of the same reason, undead don't collapse in an antimagic field, too.

 

[historian]

What does beiong summoned have to do with it? I'm assuming it's physically present (called or just there). The weight of the neutronium golem would collapse itself (if it's large enough) or the neutronium would decay over the course of a minute, mostly into hydrogen, as the unstable neutrons aren't being forced together tightly enough to keep them from reverting into p+e.

So we've established that a neutronium golem should be impossible under contemporary physics. Likewise, a stone golem should be impossible under contemporary physics (stone moving of its own volition and not crumbling despite the fact that it has no apparent joints). But, we've assumed the existence of anti-magic and therefore magic. The question then becomes how we apply anti-magic to magical creatures. Per the rules:

The spell [anti-magic] has no effect on golems and other constructs that are imbued with magic during their creation process and are thereafter self-supporting (unless they have been summoned, in which case they are treated like any other summoned creatures). Elementals, corporeal undead, and outsiders are likewise unaffected unless summoned.

It seems to me that your issue with the neutronium golem is not really an issue with the neutronium golem but either (1) an issue with the application of the anti-magic rules or (2) an issue with the existence and/or limits of magic.

Anyway, that's why I interjected the notion of summoning into the hypothetical.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey UK!

Hey BardStephenFox matey!

So it looks like you will be doing Apotheosis next?

Yes, and thanks to everyone who voted in the poll...even those who voted for the "don't like epic/immortal gaming" option, although I should have asked them why not.

Any idea on a time frame?

Of course I have an idea, but I will only get burnt by revealing it methinks.

Yeah I know you aren't good at hitting those.

Yes I don't seem very good with those.

But that book would be golden to me right now. At some point I am going to need to decide if I am going to wait for it or just start winging it as best as I can.

Well how about the end of the month (as the first self imposed deadline to miss). I'm almost on top of the Bestiary art here so hopefully I'll have that out of the way soon and I can concentrate on Apotheosis which doesn't really need tons of work to complete so it shouldn't take too long when it has my full attention.

 

[BSF]

End of the month would be terrific! I won't hold your feet to the fire on it though. I just have several campaign elements coming up that would be much more solid and consistent if I don't start winging it as I need it.

By no means am I as hardcore as you are, but once I get a grasp on a framework, I can do pretty good with maintaining consistency.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hiya mate!

End of the month would be terrific! I won't hold your feet to the fire on it though.

Thats okay. I have Anabstercorian for that.

I just have several campaign elements coming up that would be much more solid and consistent if I don't start winging it as I need it.

By no means am I as hardcore as you are, but once I get a grasp on a framework, I can do pretty good with maintaining consistency.

DMs have that luxury. Designers don't. I think a good designer should be able to objectively explain why everything is designed the way it is.

 

[Anabstercorian]

Thats okay. I have Anabstercorian for that.

God-darned right you do! I want a time table, now.

DMs have that luxury. Designers don't. I think a good designer should be able to objectively explain why everything is designed the way it is.

I heartily approve of this sentiment.

 

[CRGreathouse]

No - out of the same reason, undead don't collapse in an antimagic field, too.

Huh? I'm talking about the fact that its own gravity is strong enough to force itself into a sphere by virtue of its weight alone, not quibbling about its animating force.

 

[CRGreathouse]

It seems to me that your issue with the neutronium golem is not really an issue with the neutronium golem but either (1) an issue with the application of the anti-magic rules or (2) an issue with the existence and/or limits of magic.

Anyway, that's why I interjected the notion of summoning into the hypothetical.

As above, I have no issues with the animating force (and such no problems with antimagic in general) and am only considering the effects of said antimagic field. The creature can't hold itself together without magic.

 

[Fieari]

I think the point is that the animating force also keeps it non-sphere shaped.