Another Prot Evil question

[FunkBGR]

Hey all -

Quick question:

Protection from Evil says it protects against Enchantment (Charm) and Enchantment (Compulsion)

Intelligent magic items have an ego score, and if the user tries to go against the items' wishes, they try to dominate the user. It doesn't describe this as a Dominate Person spell, or anything - it just says it dominates the user.

See where I'm going?
Does Protection from X (Chaos, Evil, Good, Law) prevent a magic item from dominating it's user?

 

[Nail]

Protection from X:

...the barrier blocks any attempt to possess the warded creature (by a magic jar attack, for example) or to exercise mental control over the creature (including enchantment (charm) effects and enchantment (compulsion) effects that grant the caster ongoing control over the subject, such as dominate person).

Note that the examples given are just that: examples. They are not definitive lists. Anything else that falls within the rubrick of "exercising (ongoing) mental control" is blocked.

 

[KarinsDad]

I would say yes. It is definitely mind affecting and compulsion.

And, it makes sense that there would be multiple defenses against the Intelligent item ability (e.g. Protection From Evil, Antimagic Field, etc.).

 

[frankthedm]

Protection from X:

Note that the examples given are just that: examples. They are not definitive lists. Anything else that falls within the rubrick of "exercising (ongoing) mental control" is blocked.

Sadly there is one vital thing; the barrier blocks the mental command, the weapon is aready inside the barrier with you! You've locked yourself in the cage with the the dominator! Now your party wizard can't charm or dominate you from killing the party at the weapon's command!

Mwa-hahaha!

 

[Nail]

Sure.

But the description doesn't say the attempt has to cross "the barrier" in order to block it. The presence of the barrier prevents the domination from working; location is irrelevant.

 

[frankthedm]

But the description doesn't say the attempt has to cross "the barrier" in order to block it.

Then we will have to agree to disagree how barriers work.

Second, the barrier blocks any attempt to possess the warded creature (by a magic jar attack, for example) or to exercise mental control over the creature (including enchantment (charm) effects and enchantment (compulsion) effects that grant the caster ongoing control over the subject, such as dominate person). The protection does not prevent such effects from targeting the protected creature, but it suppresses the effect for the duration of the protection from evil effect. If the protection from evil effect ends before the effect granting mental control does, the would-be controller would then be able to mentally command the controlled creature. Likewise, the barrier keeps out a possessing life force but does not expel one if it is in place before the spell is cast. This second effect works regardless of alignment.

 

[Nail]