any good multiclass/PRCs for a high level sorc?

[Avatar28]

I'm giving some heavy thought to the Archmage PrC. Possibly to Incantrix or some other as well. The -1 for metamagic is quite nice, as is the spontaneous metamagic.

 

[Shallown]

First for meta magic feats I would drop empower and maximise. I find buying the rods that allow you to do so much better since they work 3 times a day.
Sorceror's roc with energy substitution with sonic being the best min/max wise.

Think also about the elemntal Prc in Tome and blood. It gives significant boost to spell penetration and saving throws which help at higher levels.

Of course how this works out at epic levels don't know don't have the book.

also though the Elemental Prc requires certain types of spells (Cold, fire etc) you don't have to continue to choose those spells as you gain levels, you'll want to to benefit from the classes special powers but with a few energy subs you can still be very affective no matter what you face.

Extend is a good meta for a sorceror especially if you invest in some 2nd boost spells. Peristant spell may also be an idea.

justa few ideas.

Later

 

[Chun-tzu]

The only problem with those last two PrCs is that we're planar travelling for an epic campaign and I'm not sure how well those spell pools will work. Also, I believe that the planar structure in the Manual of the Planes and the ELH is different from that offered in the realms, is it not? Our homeplace is Greyhawk. If my DM will allow it, though, that would be worth looking into those.

The spellpool will allow me to share spells put in by other sorcerers/mages and in return, I have to put some in of an equivalent level, correct? I.E. I don't have Stone to Flesh, but I need it. So I "borrow" it from the spellpool. At some point, I have to cast another spell of equivalent or higher level back into the spellpool to repay my "loan." That's how it works, right?

Yes, although there are a few more limits. If you're a 20th level caster, you will be able to call up to 10 levels of spell per day. Magic of Faerun also adds limitations on availability of spells. The availability of a specific 9th level spell, for example, is 20%. The Guild Wizard in Magic of Faerun also has to pay an extra 10% experience per level, as an added balancing factor.

I'm not too familiar with planar rules, but spells can be called from the spellpool at any distance. Regardless of the official rules, you should check with your DM what he thinks of these PrCs and spellpools.

And just a comment on Energy Substitution: it's a great feat, but don't take it if you're an Archmage. Take the Mastery of Energy high arcana ability, which enables you to change energy types to whichever you like, on the fly.

 

[Avatar28]

I'm going to borrow MoF and FRCS from our DM tomorrow and make reference copies of the relevant PrCs. Would it be possible to have a Sorc5/Archmage5/Incantrix10? That seems like it would be a pretty fearsome combo, the only limiting factor being a lack of spells known. The spellpool is cool, but I'm not sure that it would be worth the XP penalty for me (or even how I'd do it starting out at 20th level).

Someone on the Wizards boards posted an archsorcerer class that seemed pretty good as well, though I'm not sure my DM would allow it.

 

[Voadam]

I'm going to borrow MoF and FRCS from our DM tomorrow and make reference copies of the relevant PrCs. Would it be possible to have a Sorc5/Archmage5/Incantrix10? That seems like it would be a pretty fearsome combo, the only limiting factor being a lack of spells known. The spellpool is cool, but I'm not sure that it would be worth the XP penalty for me (or even how I'd do it starting out at 20th level).

Archmage requries something like the ability to cast 7th or 8th level arcane spells. I forget the reqs for Incantatrix (It deals with abjuration specialization) but I'm pretty sure you can not qualify at 6th level.

 

[Chun-tzu]

Would it be possible to have a Sorc5/Archmage5/Incantrix10?

Voadam is right, this combination is illegal.

You could do Sor 6/Incantatrix 9/Archmage 5 or Sorc 6/Incantatrix 10/Archmage 4. You'd need to spend another feat on Education or Cosmopolitan, however, to get the required ranks in Knowledge: The Planes. But you need to be able to cast 3rd level magic, so for Sorcerers you have to be at least level 6.

 

[Stone Angel]

Have you checked out the Librium Equitis. The two fisted sorcerer of T'arg seems pretty cool. I have never seen it played, but the ability to cast a copy of your spells is just more firepower.

 

[Avatar28]

Have you checked out the Librium Equitis. The two fisted sorcerer of T'arg seems pretty cool. I have never seen it played, but the ability to cast a copy of your spells is just more firepower.

No, I'm trying to stick pretty much to WOTC stuff right now so I don't have to buy more books.

 

[Chun-tzu]

If you go Human Sorc 6/Incantatrix 9/Archmage 5, your feat selection is somewhat limited, due to the high PrC demands. Your feats are going to look something like this:

1) Education, Spellcasting Prodigy
3) any metamagic feat
6) Iron Will
9) Spell Focus
12) Skill Focus
15) Spell Focus
18) ---

To build a Sorc 6/Incantatrix, you need 3 feats: Education (Cosmopolitan will do, but Education is better for Knowledge skills), Iron Will, and any metamagic feat. Spellcasting Prodigy and Education must be taken at first level.

Then, all your feats must be spent on the Archmage requirements, Skill Focus: Spellcraft and Spell Focus on two different schools. Some good schools for Spell Focus are Evocation, Enchantment, and Transmutation. But you should choose your spells before choosing Spell Focus.

That only leaves you one spare feat. However, an Incantatrix gets bonus metamagic feats at levels 1, 5, and 10. So, for Incantatrix 9, you'd have 2 bonus metamagic feats, plus the one you took to qualify, makes 3.

If your DM allows you to apply multiple Empowers on the same spell (which the Sage has ruled as legal), then don't bother with Maximize Spell. Empower Spell is good, and so is Extend Spell.

 

[Avatar28]

Cool. I'll probably go the 6,9,5 method then. We're starting halfway to 21st level, so only 10,000 xp needed to max out incantatrix as well.

I'll take empower as my first metamagic feat and probably extend and, um, I dunno. Possibly still or silent? I've never had much opportunity to use metamagic feats beyond empower so far. I might also want to choose my spells with an eye towards the school focus. Probably I'd focus on evocation since that's a lot of your big damage spells. Especially with the free, on-the-fly energy substitution.