By packaging, do you mean shipping crates or the foil packs? (I would hope both.)The packaging has ways to track it, but the cards themselves do not.
So when I agree with WotC I am shill for them and when I disagree it is still not okIsn't it crazy that so many people in this thread defend WotC even though WotC apologized for sending armed thugs to intimidate someone? You guys don't even agree with WotC when they say they went too far!
WotC doesn't believe he committed a crime AFTER they finally spoke to him about it. It seems that they REALLY THOUGHT that he was some kind of mastermind before they finally got ahold of him and found out what had actually happened. Talk about egg on their face!WotC doesn't believe he committed a crime.
it's almost like one group of fans are willing to overlook WotC's past actions (the whole 30th-anniversary nonsense) since they more than likely don't know nor care what the OGL fiasco is/was instead of being fixated on it.
I'm not sure this exactly applies:Well, that wraps this up pretty nicely then.
In this case, he did pay for merchandise, but got something different.FTC said:By law, companies can’t send unordered merchandise to you, then demand payment. That means you never have to pay for things you get but didn’t order. You also don’t need to return unordered merchandise. You’re legally entitled to keep it as a free gift.
By the booster boxes, and booster packs I believe.By packaging, do you mean shipping crates or the foil packs? (I would hope both.)
And if I were WotC, I would be considering whether there's a way to do a discreet stamp of some sort on the cards as well.
I'm not sure this exactly applies:
In this case, he did pay for merchandise, but got something different.
It does sound like the FTC doesn't think he needed to give it back, though.
And that's not unreasonable.The more I read about it, the more I’m convinced this is what they wanted most of all. Boxes and foil packet serial numbers so they have concrete proof for internal investigations/dismissals/police action. if it was my company then that would be pretty high on my agenda.
depends on what 'unordered' means, i.e. without ordering anything, or ordering something else but receiving the wrong product. I certainly had Amazon ask for things back when they sent the wrong thing...Yeah, it's a pain in the ass to parse the thing in this context, because the regulations were originally passed to stop mail fraud schemes and the like, but the key bit is that so far as the FTC is concerned, if someone mails you some stuff, that's your stuff now.
I love how you spin arguments to fit your stance at any given moment.Well that's because WotC, in actuality, absolutely does not believe they went too far. They're saying that to save face and for PR reasons.
You see, as a corporation, their only allegiance is to money not any ethical norm. Do you honestly believe any corporation's PR?
yawn seeing what they have done with the Universe beyond stuff has actually cooled a lot of heads, no one really cares what ONE analysis saidYeah, but they do know about the complete debacle that was the Magic 30th Anniversary set. We've all but got confirmation that it didn't sell out; they just stopped selling it.
And they should know that Bank of America double-downgraded Hasbro to "underperform" after an in-depth analysis because they've been overprinting Magic so much. People are starting to quit the game because it's impossible to collect anymore. I keep getting flashbacks to the comics collapse in the 90s. A bunch of fans are still upset about Universes Beyond. Before the Pinkerton thing, all I knew about Aftermath was that it was a microset of 50 cards that made no sense unless you just assumed Hasbro was out whale hunting again.
Those were pretty big stories from last six months. Like Magic is not really feeling like a good game at the moment, in spite of how good the current set is. The same feeling of good development teams with terrible and shortsighted executive management is there, too.
If its the right thing to do, why did they put out an apology for it?So when I agree with WotC I am shill for them and when I disagree it is still not ok
I don't care whether they apologized. From a damage control perspective it is the right thing to do. That does not mean I have to consider what they did wrong.
If they genuinely thought that, then I go back to saying the problem is an internal one, and it's a biggie. How many times does product have to end up out on the street ahead of time before you get security cards, video cameras and bar code scanning for all your warehouse goods?WotC doesn't believe he committed a crime AFTER they finally spoke to him about it. It seems that they REALLY THOUGHT that he was some kind of mastermind before they finally got ahold of him and found out what had actually happened. Talk about egg on their face!